Impressions of the new Nikon D7500
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Re: Initial impressions of the new Nikon D7500
It was on sale all of December and part of January.
It was on sale all of December and part of January.
And the D5 frame is made of ...
A Challenger tank is made of metal. A Ford Fiesta car is made of metal. Does that mean they are equally strong? In fact a main battle tank has composite armour. Or armor if you prefer.
What are bullet proof vests made of? Metal or plastic? The answer is plastic. Kevlar.
It seems that some people here are obsessed with the simplistic idea that metal is good, and plastic is bad. It ain't that simple folks.
Whiskeyman
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Re: Initial impressions of the new Nikon D7500
Fantastic advice for any camera!!! :encouragement:
WM
My advice is don't drop it.
Fantastic advice for any camera!!! :encouragement:
WM
Bikerbrent_RIP
Senior Member
Agree completely. For my kind of shooting I too will be sticking to my D7200
Whiskeyman
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This is the case because the introduction of the D500 and D7500 does not make the D7200 less of a camera than it was before. Isn't it great to have the camera choices that we do have?
I sometimes ask myself whether I would have been happy with a D7200 instead of the refurbished D7100 that I never did like and traded in on my D750. If so, I likely would have waited a lot longer to purchase my D750, which I really enjoy shooting with, BTW.
WJ
Nero
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That's not necessarily true. The sensor is better but better glass would make a bigger difference. As for the processor, it'll make the camera run faster but it won't be a huge improvement I bet. There will be some noticeable difference as this isn't meant to replace the D7200, it's basically a more affordable D500-like camera as you said.
Besides, it's more about the person using the camera.
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Photowyzard
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My initial thoughts....
- No second slot?? Are you kidding?
- USB2 ..... WHAT THE ..... The World has moved on to USB3 and it is the least I expect. Idiotic.
- strap D-Ring holders look cheap ... embarrassing almost. It's a little finess thing, but it gives the camera a quality look. This one is cheap looking.
- 20.9 MP??? Seriously... this is the best you can do!? At the very least.... 24MP.
Again, they just don't seem to want to give you that 100% reason to buy!
There are, however, some very impressive specs in this release. The D7500 is not a slouch. Some noticeable differences with D500.
8 FPS vs 10 on the D500 - OK with me!
No grip option, fine by me. At 8 FPS, just buy a couple more batteries! - OK with me!
Lower res screen. Ok, could live with that for $1k less. - OK with me!
No EV control. Meh....could live with this too. - OK with me!
WB bracketing....less - OK with me!
Flash bracketing...less - OK with me!
Battery life.....less .....meh! I guess.... - OK with me!
Less AF points ... again, 51 vs 152 ..... what ever.... - OK with me!
And................... looks like there may be some old lens compatibility issues!!! I get this.... get the D500 if it is an issue...- OK with me!
These, to me are fine for a $1,000 less! The slot, USB2 and D-Ring holder are a FAIL.
I do not understand the DUMMIES at Nikon who simply do not want to give you that "Full on Loving Feeling" to jump head first into their product!
Overall, not impressed, won't even bother looking at one much less buy it.
I am waiting for theD820 or D850 but again, if the features do not vastly improve upon the D810 .... money stays warm in my back pocket.
- No second slot?? Are you kidding?
- USB2 ..... WHAT THE ..... The World has moved on to USB3 and it is the least I expect. Idiotic.
- strap D-Ring holders look cheap ... embarrassing almost. It's a little finess thing, but it gives the camera a quality look. This one is cheap looking.
- 20.9 MP??? Seriously... this is the best you can do!? At the very least.... 24MP.
Again, they just don't seem to want to give you that 100% reason to buy!
There are, however, some very impressive specs in this release. The D7500 is not a slouch. Some noticeable differences with D500.
8 FPS vs 10 on the D500 - OK with me!
No grip option, fine by me. At 8 FPS, just buy a couple more batteries! - OK with me!
Lower res screen. Ok, could live with that for $1k less. - OK with me!
No EV control. Meh....could live with this too. - OK with me!
WB bracketing....less - OK with me!
Flash bracketing...less - OK with me!
Battery life.....less .....meh! I guess.... - OK with me!
Less AF points ... again, 51 vs 152 ..... what ever.... - OK with me!
And................... looks like there may be some old lens compatibility issues!!! I get this.... get the D500 if it is an issue...- OK with me!
These, to me are fine for a $1,000 less! The slot, USB2 and D-Ring holder are a FAIL.
I do not understand the DUMMIES at Nikon who simply do not want to give you that "Full on Loving Feeling" to jump head first into their product!
Overall, not impressed, won't even bother looking at one much less buy it.
I am waiting for theD820 or D850 but again, if the features do not vastly improve upon the D810 .... money stays warm in my back pocket.
southaussieoutdoors
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Don't care about 1 card but wish it had a full rotating screen.
Other than that it looks like a good upgrade from my D3100.
Other than that it looks like a good upgrade from my D3100.
Make that variable the same and the 7500 is going to outperform the 7200 by a significant margin.
Bikerbrent_RIP
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Make that variable the same and the 7500 is going to outperform the 7200 by a significant margin.
Good luck on that!
Good luck on that!
No luck at all. Put both cameras in my hand and the 7500 will outshoot the 7200. It has a superior sensor and engine. Simple to fathom really.
Nero
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Significant? No. Not because of a sensor upgrade like this. A processor would make even less difference in terms of image quality. Lens choice would make a far bigger difference. ;DMake that variable the same and the 7500 is going to outperform the 7200 by a significant margin.
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Bigger pixels on the 7500 equate to better iq than then 500 (minor loss of resolution - lenses anyone?) so iq will likely come in stronger than 7200. One card slot - snapbridge backup to phone or laptop I say. So you 7200 users are saying it is the same camera as the 7200? We shall see!
I would also like to mention the AF system. Supposedly the same as 7200 yet the 7500 does a few things the 7200 doesn't in that department so until we see the manual I think that one is still on the fence. RAW buffer capacity way better. It is a 500 in sheep's clothing and as such I am certain it will flat out outgun the 7200. It is not as crippled as some would have you believe.
But I have no longer have any horses in the DX race so I will check back late this summer when a few folks have had the 7500 in hand and have done real world comparisons vs 7200 and vs 500. I know one thing for certain. Amateur birders are going to go with the new camera because it will be faster.
One other point. It is the 'new' entry level that is why they skipped 73 and 74. Remember Nikon is restructuring its product line. They will be releasing a bunch of no mirror units late this year and the pro level stuff will differentiate itself from entry level in a big way. This time next year everyone is going to be up in arms because of the no mirror cameras.
So much hate for a camera not even on the market yet. What a shame.
I would also like to mention the AF system. Supposedly the same as 7200 yet the 7500 does a few things the 7200 doesn't in that department so until we see the manual I think that one is still on the fence. RAW buffer capacity way better. It is a 500 in sheep's clothing and as such I am certain it will flat out outgun the 7200. It is not as crippled as some would have you believe.
But I have no longer have any horses in the DX race so I will check back late this summer when a few folks have had the 7500 in hand and have done real world comparisons vs 7200 and vs 500. I know one thing for certain. Amateur birders are going to go with the new camera because it will be faster.
One other point. It is the 'new' entry level that is why they skipped 73 and 74. Remember Nikon is restructuring its product line. They will be releasing a bunch of no mirror units late this year and the pro level stuff will differentiate itself from entry level in a big way. This time next year everyone is going to be up in arms because of the no mirror cameras.
So much hate for a camera not even on the market yet. What a shame.
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Nero
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Re: Initial impressions of the new Nikon D7500
Lol So to you, anyone who sees things differently is a hater. No hatred to be found here, it sounds more like you can't handle people seeing things differently from you. Pretty narrow-minded, elitist attitude to have. I've encountered that attitude countless times from different people and one thing I've learned is that people who think that way are not worth arguing with.
You love this camera so much? Great. Go get it and enjoy the hell out of it. Personally, I (and others) are expecting something more when we think of upgrading and this isn't what we're looking for. That's all there is to it.
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Lol So to you, anyone who sees things differently is a hater. No hatred to be found here, it sounds more like you can't handle people seeing things differently from you. Pretty narrow-minded, elitist attitude to have. I've encountered that attitude countless times from different people and one thing I've learned is that people who think that way are not worth arguing with.
You love this camera so much? Great. Go get it and enjoy the hell out of it. Personally, I (and others) are expecting something more when we think of upgrading and this isn't what we're looking for. That's all there is to it.
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Not if 6 FPS (12 bit RAW only, not 14 bit) prevents you getting the critical moment, or your buffer fills up since it does 'only' 18 12 bit RAW frames compared to 50 14 bit RAW frames for the D7500. And the D7200 takes 5 seconds to clear the buffer. The D500 takes 3 seconds to clear the buffer after 200 shots. We don't know how the D7500 performs, but I bet it is at least as good as the D7200, probably much better, in that respect. And as I've said, the electronic shutter is superb for close ups, where vibration is the single biggest problem, the D500 has got me many shots which I could not have got with my D600 (or a D7200).
I use highlight priority metering on the D500, and it is the mutts nuts, really good. The D7500 has that. White balance on the D500 is superb, we will see how the D7500 does compared to the D7500 (in real world tests, not studio ones).
I also suspect the AF is better, but again we must wait for real world tests.
The articulating screen can get you shots you'd otherwise miss, if for example holding it up above other peoples heads, or when close to the ground.
The resolution difference is miniscule. The serious flaw - for some, not me - is the single card slot, but we seemed to have survived for years without that.
And video is more advanced, so for those users the images will be much better.
Yes there are flaws: one card slot, presumably no vertical grip, and users need to assess how much they need these.
What interests me is what 'real' users think of the camera, rather than those who habitually use forums, although sadly the latter often shape the conversation, and sometimes blow minor issues out of all proportion.
Re: Initial impressions of the new Nikon D7500
You can start the name calling if you wish but I do not think it will get you that far.
Lol So to you, anyone who sees things differently is a hater. No hatred to be found here, it sounds more like you can't handle people seeing things differently from you. Pretty narrow-minded, elitist attitude to have. I've encountered that attitude countless times from different people and one thing I've learned is that people who think that way are not worth arguing with.
You love this camera so much? Great. Go get it and enjoy the hell out of it. Personally, I (and others) are expecting something more when we think of upgrading and this isn't what we're looking for. That's all there is to it.
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You can start the name calling if you wish but I do not think it will get you that far.
Re: Initial impressions of the new Nikon D7500
My impression is that many if not most people here are posting pretty extreme and unbalanced "it's a dog" comments, so yes they are 'haters'. Am I a D7500 fanboy? Nope. All cameras are a compromise. For some the omissions such as only one card slot will be a deal breaker. But to say that because it has only one card slot that it is a 'fail' is absurd.
Lol So to you, anyone who sees things differently is a hater. No hatred to be found here, it sounds more like you can't handle people seeing things differently from you. Pretty narrow-minded, elitist attitude to have. I've encountered that attitude countless times from different people and one thing I've learned is that people who think that way are not worth arguing with.
You love this camera so much? Great. Go get it and enjoy the hell out of it. Personally, I (and others) are expecting something more when we think of upgrading and this isn't what we're looking for. That's all there is to it.
My impression is that many if not most people here are posting pretty extreme and unbalanced "it's a dog" comments, so yes they are 'haters'. Am I a D7500 fanboy? Nope. All cameras are a compromise. For some the omissions such as only one card slot will be a deal breaker. But to say that because it has only one card slot that it is a 'fail' is absurd.