Wedding Photography a Dying Industry?

Ruidoso Bill

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The economy today may also have something to do with it. Everyone except the gov't has to figure out how to do things for less. I have attended several when the photographer is just a friend (sometimes it's me) that is doing it for free. I was at one wedding where everything was being done with a video camera; no still photography to be seen. The day may be gone, except for the affluent, where there just isn't much in the budget for pictures. Hey Dad, think you could bring your camera along and take some pics?
 
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kelvinjins

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Wedding photography has changed a lot in last 10 years. Now with the use of digital media and equipment, wedding photography is much easier and more effective.
 
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Browncoat

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Wedding photography changed a lot in last 10 years.

I don't agree with this at all. Sure, styles have changed. Gear has gotten more advanced and affordable, but the photography hasn't changed, I don't see how it's any easier or effective.

What has changed is the consumer's perception of value. These days people think that price = value, and it doesn't. Not in the service industry at least. Photography customers are comparing apples to oranges, and working pro photographers have done little to make consumers see otherwise. At least most of them haven't.
 
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kelvinstone

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Technology has changed a lot, and now it will be easier to do wedding photography with new digital equipment.
 
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Eduard

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Since this thread has new "energy" and knowing that there are a lot of folks here in the business, let me ask you what to expect. I'm getting remarried in the middle of May. We booked a small late 1700's house on a country club next to a state park for the event. The ceremony and lunch will be there. Probably 50 people, half immediate family. So let's say ceremony at 11:00 am, at that location until late 4'ish then on to a family member's large home until whenever. For the country club portion, without prints, the cheapest quote I've received is $2500. I'm either asking the wrong questions or have the wrong expectations. What should I be asking and what kind of price should I be looking for? Thanks in advance!!
 

naja

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It is something I do not understand! Couples would not get their cake from Walmart or go to McDonald's for their meal, but think they can get decent photography on the cheap just because a lot of people own digital cameras (I didn't say take good images!!).

If a couple want to do it on the cheap then there are some snappers that will accommodate them. I prefer to take photographs and couples have to pay for that, and I have to make a little from sources other than weddings.
 

Eduard

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Naja, I'm not looking for cheap. On the contrary. I'm a consultant and routinely bill at $250-300/hour or more. The quote of $2500 for 4-5 hours of work seems a bit extreme to me. Maybe I'm wrong, but I expected quotes around $1000-1500. THAT is why I'm asking for advice to make sure my expectations are correct and I ask the right questions before entering into a contract.
 

ohkphoto

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For the country club portion, without prints, the cheapest quote I've received is $2500. I'm either asking the wrong questions or have the wrong expectations. What should I be asking and what kind of price should I be looking for? Thanks in advance!!

Congratulations, Eduard! It sounds like it's going to be a beautiful wedding . . . 1700's house. . .wow.

You, as a photographer, recognize a top quality photograph. Most brides and grooms don't. My best photo shoots were the ones where the clients gave a lot of thought to what kind of images they wanted and were able to tell me and let my creativity take over.

Go through the location, decide where you want your formals taken and what you want them to look like; make a list of "special moments " you want photographed, and I would definitely ask what kind of lighting they're going to use. You should be able to stage exactly what you want. Also ask, how many images you get to pick from and copyright/personal use licenses. You said no prints are included. Are you expected to purchase them through the photographer or do you print your own from a CD/DVD? Do they include the DVD in the cost?

$2500 is not unreasonable for a good photographer, especially in your area. There's a lot more time involved in bridal portrait PP. . . the photos are going to be around for generations so you do want them to be nearly perfect.

Bottom line, Eduard, discuss with your bride exactly what you want and find the photographer to fit that (look at sample work and ask the photographer which are his/her favorites --that will give you an idea of the style). You can always negotiate --e.g. ask them to include some prints, etc. Take a a look at some of David Ziser's photos to get an idea of good wedding photography if you need.

Hope this helps. Good luck!
 

Browncoat

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Definitely interested in your experience with this, Eduard. Be sure to keep us posted!

$2500 seems high to me too, but it seems pretty much on par with what I see all over the place. In my own mind, it seems that the wedding pros are still (and I'll need to get my flame-retardant gear on for saying this) playing the "exclusive" card. As in, no one else can do it, so they still charge a premium price. Supply and demand has changed...the industry as a whole, hasn't.

Shop around, I'm certain that there is a budding pro out there who would do a spectacular job and be thrilled to get $1000-$1500 for your wedding.
 

ohkphoto

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In my own mind, it seems that the wedding pros are still (and I'll need to get my flame-retardant gear on for saying this) playing the "exclusive" card. As in, no one else can do it, so they still charge a premium price. Supply and demand has changed...the industry as a whole, hasn't.

Anthony, I agree with you. I occasionally visit a professional forum just to keep up with the professional part, and I can't tell you how many times some well-meaning, "budding" photographer will post an "ask for help for doing a wedding", and is immediately shot down by the "wedding specialists" --this kind of snobbery is a real turn-off.

Shop around, I'm certain that there is a budding pro out there who would do a spectacular job and be thrilled to get $1000-$1500 for your wedding.

How far is Jackson Center, Ohio from Main Line PA ? (hint . . . hint ) :cool:
 

Eduard

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Honestly, if any of you were close to Philly I'd probably take you up on it. That being the case, here is the text from a website of a photographer that someone referred. I haven't talked to them yet, but I like the "tone" and sample portfolios:

We are proud of the artistic and experienced coverage we can provide you on your special day. The packages here are our basic packages which we feel represent a good blend of savings and quality. Each package includes one or two shooters for your special day or event and a free consultation at your event location before the event date. in addition, with each package, you will receive some prints. What size and how many are questions we'd rather leave to you instead of forcing upon you a set number of set sizes as is common with many wedding packages.

Understandably, each situation is unique and your needs may be best met with a different criteria than shown here. We would be glad to work with you to create a photographic package that would fit your individual requirements. For individual print prices, our portrait packages and our small event pricing, please e-mail us.

$800 Package
4 Hours of Coverage
2 Shooters
300 High Resolution Images on CD/DVD
$40 Worth of Prints

$1200 Package
6 Hours of Coverage
2 Shooters
300 High Resolution Images on CD/DVD
$90 Worth of Prints

$1600 Package
8 Hours of Coverage
2 Shooters
300+ High Resolution Images on CD/DVD
$145 Worth of Prints

$2000 Package
10 Hours of Coverage
2 Shooters
300+ High Resolution Images on CD/DVD
$200 Worth of Prints
 
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Browncoat

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This is what bothers me most about the whole thing. Belonging to organizations like this doesn't (or shouldn't, rather) try to set pricing standards. It's $335/year to join this outfit, and according to their member benefits page, at little gain for the photographer.

Interesting topic of discussion on its own merit, might have to start a new thread for that. Photography organizations: benefits and advantages.
 

Curt

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Well I am not a pro,but have shot my fair share of weddings in the past.it was mostly for friends,etc. I made a few bucks ,but nothing like pro rates.I think with how hard times have come people are indeed looking for the cheapest route possible to keep the costs down. I do not think digital has really anything to do with it. People are going to try and save on everything,not just their wedding pictures.
 
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