D600 shutter replacement news

hark

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I read NSC latest report. It seems they are replacing the shutter even after warranty and if they are not able to solve the problem, replace it with any camera. That is good news. Maybe it is a good time to consider a pre-owned

Yesterday while I was in a camera store, I mentioned something about it being a good time to buy a pre-owned D600. The sales rep said he thought the shutter replacement was for original owners--although Nikon's web site doesn't specify.
 

SkvLTD

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It's simply per original country of sale of the body. So US ones, regardless of how many hands they changed, can be sent in for free only to the US service centers and so on.

After, I want to say ~4000 clicks, I only see maybe 4-5 spots in areas where you'd normally never even notice them. All in all I'm pretty pleased with the new shutter.
 

Bukitimah

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Frankly, Nikon should just own up and replace if they have a solution. Otherwise replace or offer a small top up to exchange with D610.
 

Mark F

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Frankly, Nikon should just own up and replace if they have a solution. Otherwise replace or offer a small top up to exchange with D610.

That's what they are doing now.
Not all d600s have had problems. Mine didn't at first, and I'd still have it if they didn't do a shutter replacement the first time when it was t needed.
So not all customers will just automatically receive a replacement.
I believe what nikon is doing is about the best way to handle it. Replace shutters if a camera is sent in with the problem, replace camera if the problem isn't being resolved.



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Mrmover

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My complaint is not the spots, it's the loss of resale value. I am considering upgrading to a D800 but the resale value
Of the D600 is absurd.


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Mark F

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My complaint is not the spots, it's the loss of resale value. I am considering upgrading to a D800 but the resale value
Of the D600 is absurd.


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Yeah... My d40 isn't worth much these days.
But seriously, the d600 resale would have gone down regardless of this issue.


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Phillydog1958

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Yeah... My d40 isn't worth much these days.
But seriously, the d600 resale would have gone down regardless of this issue.


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I don't think so. I don't think there would even be a D610, were it not for the D600 fiasco. The D600 would've retained it's shelf life and held value just as long as any other Nikon DSLR. If you know of something that I'm not aware of, please shed a little light. :confused:
 

Mark F

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There is a guy in my town that is complaining about the resale value on his d800. He wants to sell so he can buy a d4s. He's not a pro, and doesn't even get out to shoot very much. He knows very little about setting up he camera to do anything special except setup guides from Ken Rockwell. He'd do very well with a d90 tell you the truth, but he has to have the latest greatest of everything. Nobody wants to pay the price for a d800 around here, especially used. The d600 got bad press, and people won't pay the money because of it. But, if you think that the d610 wasn't going to come out and the d600 was the end of the line, I think you are misguided. I hear talk of a d620 around the corner that will cut into the resale of the d610.


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Rick M

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They do all go down in value, but the D600 took a big hit early, more so than most models. I've sold 2 other bodies a year after release and got 2/3-3/4 what I paid. A year after production, the D600 was below 50% of it's original cost. That is an unusually high devaluation.
 

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There is a guy in my town that is complaining about the resale value on his d800. He wants to sell so he can buy a d4s. He's not a pro, and doesn't even get out to shoot very much. He knows very little about setting up he camera to do anything special except setup guides from Ken Rockwell. He'd do very well with a d90 tell you the truth, but he has to have the latest greatest of everything. Nobody wants to pay the price for a d800 around here, especially used. The d600 got bad press, and people won't pay the money because of it. But, if you think that the d610 wasn't going to come out and the d600 was the end of the line, I think you are misguided. I hear talk of a d620 around the corner that will cut into the resale of the d610.


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Of course, any new camera will loose value after a few years, but there is a difference here. Since Nikon admitted that there was a recognized problem with some of their production that has affected (they don't know how many) a certain percentage of their production, this fact alone has made the demand for used d600 drop quite a bit. The same thing would happen with a car model that would get a major recall for an important problem. So in this way, I think some D600 owners are justified to feel cheated.
 

Phillydog1958

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There is a guy in my town that is complaining about the resale value on his d800. He wants to sell so he can buy a d4s. He's not a pro, and doesn't even get out to shoot very much. He knows very little about setting up he camera to do anything special except setup guides from Ken Rockwell. He'd do very well with a d90 tell you the truth, but he has to have the latest greatest of everything. Nobody wants to pay the price for a d800 around here, especially used. The d600 got bad press, and people won't pay the money because of it. But, if you think that the d610 wasn't going to come out and the d600 was the end of the line, I think you are misguided. I hear talk of a d620 around the corner that will cut into the resale of the d610.



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No, I don't think my thought processes are "Misguided." I thought you were implying that the D600 had other issues. You said that the resale value of the D600 would've dropped regardless of the D600 issues with the shutter and dust. At least that's the way I perceived your comment. Perhaps there was a misunderstanding, because we all know that most consumer goods eventually show a decline in value, over time. The D600's shelf life was cut short. The D610 wasn't a true upgrade in camera.
 

Marcel

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On the bright side, after we go through the motions, we should end up with a new D610 :)

So will you go through the motions Rick? Is your's affected?

Mine, I don't know. I've had to clean it a few times, but it doesn't prevent me from enjoying this sensor and file size quite a bit. The only thing that would make me want to send it in would be to have it exchanged for a D610. But apparently you have to send it back and forth about 3 times. It means quite some time without the camera and I don't want to go there yet. I brought it back to the store last friday and was ready to send it in, I filled the papers, went back home and then after lunch went back to the store to get it back... Go figure, I'm going to wait until the service centers get better at replacing the shutters or Nikon decides to replace the body when you send it in the first time. I don't understand why they don't do that. I wonder what they did with all the unsold D600 production, but I sure don't see any in stores and they had a few. They pulled them out I think. Maybe if they pulled their inventories out of stores, they could just replace ours. It might cost them more, but their reputation would benefit.
 

Mark F

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I am aware of the frustration... I was a d600 owner. And I wasn't going to sell the camera at the current market value either. But, I generally don't sell things that I purchase anyway so I don't really worry about resale value.
I think Nikon is doing what it can do to satisfy all the owners that feel cheated. If the individuals camera genuinely has a problem, they are fixing it or replacing it. That seems like a good deal to me.

If you have a bad d600... Keep sending it in to nikon. If they replace it with a d610.. All is good. If they fix it, all is good because the d600 is still a great camera. Go out and use it

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Rick M

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So will you go through the motions Rick? Is your's affected?

Mine, I don't know. I've had to clean it a few times, but it doesn't prevent me from enjoying this sensor and file size quite a bit. The only thing that would make me want to send it in would be to have it exchanged for a D610. But apparently you have to send it back and forth about 3 times. It means quite some time without the camera and I don't want to go there yet. I brought it back to the store last friday and was ready to send it in, I filled the papers, went back home and then after lunch went back to the store to get it back... Go figure, I'm going to wait until the service centers get better at replacing the shutters or Nikon decides to replace the body when you send it in the first time. I don't understand why they don't do that. I wonder what they did with all the unsold D600 production, but I sure don't see any in stores and they had a few. They pulled them out I think. Maybe if they pulled their inventories out of stores, they could just replace ours. It might cost them more, but their reputation would benefit.

I'm waiting for a while also, when the rush is over and I have another body. Mine has not had significant issues, but more "dust" than normal, I deserve "normal" dust for my $2K! I'm looking to pick up a Dx body before the end of the year, at that time, I'll start to play the game.
 

Phillydog1958

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I'm waiting for a while also, when the rush is over and I have another body. Mine has not had significant issues, but more "dust" than normal, I deserve "normal" dust for my $2K! I'm looking to pick up a Dx body before the end of the year, at that time, I'll start to play the game.

And, it's a game, indeed. ;)
 

Mark F

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Yes. Nikon replaced my d600 with a d610 this past week. I originally had a d600 with no problems. I made the mistake of sending it in for a cleaning, and because of the shutter fiasco affecting some d600s, nikon service went ahead and changed my shutter. It came back dirty, sent in again, and they replaced the shutter again, sent back in and they replaced shutter again. Sent it to the ny service center and they went ahead and replaced it with a new d610. But, as I've said before, if they had just did the cleaning and check up I had asked for in the first place, I'd still have an excellent d600 with no problems.


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SkvLTD

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Who looks at body resale values anyway? Only the top models retain enough of it, until they get replaced in the lineup. Look at D3 vs D4 prices, even new? Plus after this recall statement, everyone who plans on selling theirs will first send it off after which it becomes like a brand new camera for the most part.
 

Phillydog1958

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I'm sitting in my home office, this morning, doing paperwork. I hear a ring of my doorbell. I see BIG BROWN sitting in front of my window. I go to the door and sign for my package, not knowing what's inside. I open it up and see my D600 under all of the bubble wrap. Nikon never sent me an email that would've informed me of my camera being in transit back to me. If I'd not got wrapped up in daily paperwork, I'd be out in the field, visiting clients and would've missed my delivery. Anyway, the packing slip implies the following:
RPL IMAGE CTL PCB
RPR SHUTTER MECHANISM
CLN LOW PASS FILTER
CLN AF UNIT
GENERAL CHECK & CLEAN
FIRMWARE UPGRADE
I haven't had a chance to take any shots yet. It's obvious what most of the abbreviations/codes denote (Replace, repair and clean) . . . I'm just wondering if this is consistent with everyone else's experience with returning their D600's for shutter/dust issues. Thanks in advance.
 
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