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  1. #31
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    Re: Which to Buy Now? D500 or D750

    Notice to Nikon!

    If the D750 replacement is crippled like the D7500 is, then it would be apparent that my D7200 will be the last Nikon camera I will ever purchase. Then because of Nikon greed and plain old stupidity, they will never get another penny from me for any accessories, lenses, whatever. I will make do with 3rd party gear. It used to be that Nikon cared about its customers. All of the older lenses worked on the all the new bodies, but now the latest lenses will not even work on my 7200. If some of the other members of this group are offended by my viewpoint, I am sorry, but I feel I have the right to my opinion.


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  2. #32
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    Re: Which to Buy Now? D500 or D750

    Quote Originally Posted by Bikerbrent View Post
    Notice to Nikon!

    If the D750 replacement is crippled like the D7500 is, then it would be apparent that my D7200 will be the last Nikon camera I will ever purchase. Then because of Nikon greed and plain old stupidity, they will never get another penny from me for any accessories, lenses, whatever. I will make do with 3rd party gear. It used to be that Nikon cared about its customers. All of the older lenses worked on the all the new bodies, but now the latest lenses will not even work on my 7200. If some of the other members of this group are offended by my viewpoint, I am sorry, but I feel I have the right to my opinion.
    I wouldn't label it greed. Afterall, all profit motive is a type of greed, but some is healthy and some not so.... It's a similar analogy to what's going with Brick & Mortar retail vs internet sales. It's a new way of thinking and many businesses types can't get past their hard wired way of doing things. I think figuring out what technologies to include in a package (say a DSLR) and what to charge for those technologies (which at a manufacturing level costs pennies) is the big struggle. Canon is having the same problem, and that is coping with a juggernaut like Sony who is not afraid to throw in everything, including the kitchen sink, in order to grab market share. And they're better at reading certain segments of their consumer wants/needs. If Apple taught us anything, we don't always know what our wants/needs are until a visionary like Steve Jobs comes along and shows us. It's a visionary approach, and frankly I don't think Nikon and Canon exe's have visionary DNA, may not be able to lessen their grip on the old school practices of packaging and marketing technology.

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  3. #33
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    Re: Which to Buy Now? D500 or D750

    A summary for the OP: You do have a nice set of lenses, good that is important.

    1) For low light wide-normal applications: D750; for wildlife and sports: D500 => you alone can say where your priority is + both are capable all rounders
    2) Waiting for the D750 replacement, is a matter of finance. The D750 will lose value faster with a new model coming out, but that will not change the performance of the D750.

    My opinion: both together do not make sense to me: they are too close.
    I`m working towards 3 bodies (probably overkill):
    1) Reach and fast AF: I now have the D500 and do understand no better is available.
    2) ISO + Colour and tone depth: I now have the Sony A7S, a DF or Dx(s) would be better with my Nikon lenses, but that I can not justify
    3) Resolution: For what I use it does not make sense, but NAS is strong.

    The D750 and D500 both have good scores in all 3 categories looking at evaluations. If I would complement it would be a specialised camera, like a DF or D800E.

    Quote Originally Posted by Bikerbrent View Post
    Notice to Nikon!
    If the D750 replacement is crippled like the D7500 ... If some of the other members of this group are offended by my viewpoint, I am sorry, but I feel I have the right to my opinion.
    Just an other opinion: A D7500 is a camera with D500 ISO performance and D7200 AF performance in a small cheaper then D500 package, aimed at people that do not need 2 memory cards. => my conclusion is it is fantastic. It is up to everyone to see if that fits them.

    Quote Originally Posted by Bikerbrent View Post
    Notice to Nikon!
    ... the latest lenses will not even work on my ...
    Must agree that the AF-P introduction seems to be a communication nightmare.
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  4. #34
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    Re: Which to Buy Now? D500 or D750

    Thanks for the advice.

    I have considered the D7500. I can live with one memory card but not without the facility of a battery grip.

  5. #35
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    Re: Which to Buy Now? D500 or D750

    Quote Originally Posted by Blacktop View Post
    I am not one to easily call bullshit , but that video is total bullshit! I only went as far as the ISO 5000 test, but I will eat my dirty socks if the D750 shot had no NR applied.
    There is no way that at ISO 5000 (or even at ISO 800 for that matter) you are going to get a silky smooth looking shot like that at 200% crop.
    That thing has heavy NR written all over it!

    I am going out in a few minutes but when I return later, I will take some high ISO shots with both my D750 and with the D500. Same lighting, same subject, same lens. I will post the RAW files to be downloaded and you can compare yourself @Ironwood, @trev864
    As I didn't have time yesterday to take these shots, I found some other shots in my LR library to compare. Same lens but different subject and the butterfly was indoors and the bird was outside. Not exactly scientific but just to compare ISO. The D500 is darn close IMO.

    Both ISO 4000

    https://www.dropbox.com/s/93s9bsg7t9...C5997.NEF?dl=0

    https://www.dropbox.com/s/tcc9n5rli9...C2721.NEF?dl=0
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  6. #36
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    Re: Which to Buy Now? D500 or D750

    Which to Buy Now? D500 or D750
    I did a comparison with the D500 and the D750. First image is the two side-by-side at ISO 5000 and then ISO 12800. However, I'm not saying which is which camera but it is the same order through each picture - I'll post camera order tomorrow. Second photo is the same shot zoomed in on the squares and the third zoomed in on the leaves.

    No editing was done. I used the D500 with a Nikon 35mm and the D750 with a Nikon 50mm at f/8, WB Cloudy, ISO set, Aperture priority to allow the camera to decide proper exposure, and the focus was on the leaf.

    If you would like to download the Photoshop file here is the link. The images are using the top 4 layers. I forgot to clean up and dispose of the bottom two layers.
    https://www.dropbox.com/s/0j9u2pkamb...rison.psd?dl=0

    Which to Buy Now? D500 or D750-iso5000_12800.jpg

    Which to Buy Now? D500 or D750-blacksquares.jpg

    Which to Buy Now? D500 or D750-leaves.jpg
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  7. #37
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    Re: Which to Buy Now? D500 or D750

    Which to Buy Now? D500 or D750
    No sure if I'm reading it correctly, but it seems the one on the left has a bit more noise? Not sure which camera.

    Quote Originally Posted by Moab Man View Post
    I did a comparison with the D500 and the D750. First image is the two side-by-side at ISO 5000 and then ISO 12800. However, I'm not saying which is which camera but it is the same order through each picture - I'll post camera order tomorrow. Second photo is the same shot zoomed in on the squares and the third zoomed in on the leaves.

    No editing was done. I used the D500 with a Nikon 35mm and the D750 with a Nikon 50mm at f/8, WB Cloudy, ISO set, Aperture priority to allow the camera to decide proper exposure, and the focus was on the leaf.

    If you would like to download the Photoshop file here is the link. The images are using the top 4 layers. I forgot to clean up and dispose of the bottom two layers.
    https://www.dropbox.com/s/0j9u2pkamb...rison.psd?dl=0

    Which to Buy Now? D500 or D750-iso5000_12800.jpg

    Which to Buy Now? D500 or D750-blacksquares.jpg

    Which to Buy Now? D500 or D750-leaves.jpg
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  8. #38
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    Re: Which to Buy Now? D500 or D750

    Late tonight or tomorrow I will say which pics are which camera. Let everyone look and come to an uninfluenced decision.

  9. #39
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    Re: Which to Buy Now? D500 or D750

    Cool - suspense!

    Will there be a drum roll or a ball dropping? LOL

    Quote Originally Posted by Moab Man View Post
    Late tonight or tomorrow I will say which pics are which camera. Let everyone look and come to an uninfluenced decision.
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  10. #40
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    Re: Which to Buy Now? D500 or D750

    Quote Originally Posted by Nathan Lanni View Post
    Cool - suspense!

    Will there be a drum roll or a ball dropping? LOL
    I'm partial to the drum roll.
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