Nathan Lanni
Senior Member
That D7200 is a great camera.
Which to Buy Now? D500 or D750
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That D7200 is a great camera.
I'm a day late to this conversation, but if you are paid to do weddings, and the birds are something you enjoy, then the D750 first. If I could only have one it would be the D750. The D500 is great for it's high speed and buffer, but I have shot sports with the D750 long enough that I can still do the job with the slightly slower frame rate and lesser buffer.
Don't get me wrong. I love the D500 and its auto-focus is amazing.
Don't get me wrong. I love the D500 and its auto-focus is amazing.
I read some comments on another forum a week or 2 ago ( I dont remember which one, I am not a member and I was just googling for answers )
One of the people in the conversation said he was so happy with his D500 because it was free from DX diffraction.
One thing that annoys me with my D7100 images is they always seem to have a bit of noise/ graininess to them, this can even be at iso100 with correct exposure. Noise reduction can get rid of some /most of it, but it does cost some detail.
I have been wondering if this has something to do with this "dx diffraction" they were talking about.
I have heard multiple times people have said how their D750 gave them "clean images", how does the D500 images compare here ?
Anyone care to give their thoughts on this ?
One of the people in the conversation said he was so happy with his D500 because it was free from DX diffraction.
One thing that annoys me with my D7100 images is they always seem to have a bit of noise/ graininess to them, this can even be at iso100 with correct exposure. Noise reduction can get rid of some /most of it, but it does cost some detail.
I have been wondering if this has something to do with this "dx diffraction" they were talking about.
I have heard multiple times people have said how their D750 gave them "clean images", how does the D500 images compare here ?
Anyone care to give their thoughts on this ?
I have had the same experience with my D7100 too, so I am interested to hear any thoughts on this.
I think someone asked earlier about lenses
I have at moment:-
Nikon 16-85mmDX
Nikon 35mm 1.8 DX
Nikon 50mm 1.8
Nikon 70-300mm
Sigma 10-20mm DX
Sigma 150-600mm
Currently have a D5100 and a D7100
I was planning on buying the D750 with the 24-120mm lens
Michael J.
Senior Member
Maybe it helps too to decide
Nikon D500 vs. D750 very high ISO test
Nikon D500 vs. D750 very high ISO test
Thanks for posting this Michael. Some interesting findings there.
I think the starting point of iso5000 is at the upper end of what I would use. I get very few usable photos out of my D7100 at iso3200.
I would agree Brad.
It appears then (as you would expect) that the D750 is best at high ISO.............Although the D500 is a little sharper, possibly due to having no AA filter?
The question is do I pull the trigger now on the D750 or wait for its replacement?
I don't think I need the huge 36mp files of the D800 series
It appears then (as you would expect) that the D750 is best at high ISO.............Although the D500 is a little sharper, possibly due to having no AA filter?
The question is do I pull the trigger now on the D750 or wait for its replacement?
I don't think I need the huge 36mp files of the D800 series
I am not one to easily call bullshit , but that video is total bullshit! I only went as far as the ISO 5000 test, but I will eat my dirty socks if the D750 shot had no NR applied.
There is no way that at ISO 5000 (or even at ISO 800 for that matter) you are going to get a silky smooth looking shot like that at 200% crop.
That thing has heavy NR written all over it!
I am going out in a few minutes but when I return later, I will take some high ISO shots with both my D750 and with the D500. Same lighting, same subject, same lens. I will post the RAW files to be downloaded and you can compare yourself @Ironwood, @trev864
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Bikerbrent
Senior Member
Notice to Nikon!
If the D750 replacement is crippled like the D7500 is, then it would be apparent that my D7200 will be the last Nikon camera I will ever purchase. Then because of Nikon greed and plain old stupidity, they will never get another penny from me for any accessories, lenses, whatever. I will make do with 3rd party gear. It used to be that Nikon cared about its customers. All of the older lenses worked on the all the new bodies, but now the latest lenses will not even work on my 7200. If some of the other members of this group are offended by my viewpoint, I am sorry, but I feel I have the right to my opinion.
If the D750 replacement is crippled like the D7500 is, then it would be apparent that my D7200 will be the last Nikon camera I will ever purchase. Then because of Nikon greed and plain old stupidity, they will never get another penny from me for any accessories, lenses, whatever. I will make do with 3rd party gear. It used to be that Nikon cared about its customers. All of the older lenses worked on the all the new bodies, but now the latest lenses will not even work on my 7200. If some of the other members of this group are offended by my viewpoint, I am sorry, but I feel I have the right to my opinion.
Nathan Lanni
Senior Member
I wouldn't label it greed. Afterall, all profit motive is a type of greed, but some is healthy and some not so.... It's a similar analogy to what's going with Brick & Mortar retail vs internet sales. It's a new way of thinking and many businesses types can't get past their hard wired way of doing things. I think figuring out what technologies to include in a package (say a DSLR) and what to charge for those technologies (which at a manufacturing level costs pennies) is the big struggle. Canon is having the same problem, and that is coping with a juggernaut like Sony who is not afraid to throw in everything, including the kitchen sink, in order to grab market share. And they're better at reading certain segments of their consumer wants/needs. If Apple taught us anything, we don't always know what our wants/needs are until a visionary like Steve Jobs comes along and shows us. It's a visionary approach, and frankly I don't think Nikon and Canon exe's have visionary DNA, may not be able to lessen their grip on the old school practices of packaging and marketing technology.
FWIW
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A summary for the OP: You do have a nice set of lenses, good that is important.
1) For low light wide-normal applications: D750; for wildlife and sports: D500 => you alone can say where your priority is + both are capable all rounders
2) Waiting for the D750 replacement, is a matter of finance. The D750 will lose value faster with a new model coming out, but that will not change the performance of the D750.
My opinion: both together do not make sense to me: they are too close.
I`m working towards 3 bodies (probably overkill):
1) Reach and fast AF: I now have the D500 and do understand no better is available.
2) ISO + Colour and tone depth: I now have the Sony A7S, a DF or Dx(s) would be better with my Nikon lenses, but that I can not justify
3) Resolution: For what I use it does not make sense, but NAS is strong.
The D750 and D500 both have good scores in all 3 categories looking at evaluations. If I would complement it would be a specialised camera, like a DF or D800E.
Just an other opinion: A D7500 is a camera with D500 ISO performance and D7200 AF performance in a small cheaper then D500 package, aimed at people that do not need 2 memory cards. => my conclusion is it is fantastic. It is up to everyone to see if that fits them.
Must agree that the AF-P introduction seems to be a communication nightmare.
1) For low light wide-normal applications: D750; for wildlife and sports: D500 => you alone can say where your priority is + both are capable all rounders
2) Waiting for the D750 replacement, is a matter of finance. The D750 will lose value faster with a new model coming out, but that will not change the performance of the D750.
My opinion: both together do not make sense to me: they are too close.
I`m working towards 3 bodies (probably overkill):
1) Reach and fast AF: I now have the D500 and do understand no better is available.
2) ISO + Colour and tone depth: I now have the Sony A7S, a DF or Dx(s) would be better with my Nikon lenses, but that I can not justify
3) Resolution: For what I use it does not make sense, but NAS is strong.
The D750 and D500 both have good scores in all 3 categories looking at evaluations. If I would complement it would be a specialised camera, like a DF or D800E.
Just an other opinion: A D7500 is a camera with D500 ISO performance and D7200 AF performance in a small cheaper then D500 package, aimed at people that do not need 2 memory cards. => my conclusion is it is fantastic. It is up to everyone to see if that fits them.
Must agree that the AF-P introduction seems to be a communication nightmare.
As I didn't have time yesterday to take these shots, I found some other shots in my LR library to compare. Same lens but different subject and the butterfly was indoors and the bird was outside. Not exactly scientific but just to compare ISO. The D500 is darn close IMO.
Both ISO 4000
https://www.dropbox.com/s/93s9bsg7t9e4d0p/_DSC5997.NEF?dl=0
https://www.dropbox.com/s/tcc9n5rli9onvse/_DSC2721.NEF?dl=0
I did a comparison with the D500 and the D750. First image is the two side-by-side at ISO 5000 and then ISO 12800. However, I'm not saying which is which camera but it is the same order through each picture - I'll post camera order tomorrow. Second photo is the same shot zoomed in on the squares and the third zoomed in on the leaves.
No editing was done. I used the D500 with a Nikon 35mm and the D750 with a Nikon 50mm at f/8, WB Cloudy, ISO set, Aperture priority to allow the camera to decide proper exposure, and the focus was on the leaf.
If you would like to download the Photoshop file here is the link. The images are using the top 4 layers. I forgot to clean up and dispose of the bottom two layers.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/0j9u2pkambcms6r/Comparison.psd?dl=0
No editing was done. I used the D500 with a Nikon 35mm and the D750 with a Nikon 50mm at f/8, WB Cloudy, ISO set, Aperture priority to allow the camera to decide proper exposure, and the focus was on the leaf.
If you would like to download the Photoshop file here is the link. The images are using the top 4 layers. I forgot to clean up and dispose of the bottom two layers.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/0j9u2pkambcms6r/Comparison.psd?dl=0
Nathan Lanni
Senior Member
No sure if I'm reading it correctly, but it seems the one on the left has a bit more noise? Not sure which camera.
Nathan Lanni
Senior Member
I'm partial to the drum roll.