Why Do I Need A Prime Lens?

Flash Pot

Senior Member
I just came back from a local camera shop with the 35mm f/1.8G tucked firmly in my arms!

I decided to buy local even though it cost me a little more since I had to pay sales tax, but figured it's best to support the local guys as well.

Thanks once again to everyone who helped me. Much appreciated!
 

skene

Senior Member
Congrats... you did a great thing...
1. purchasing a great lens. You will enjoy it.
2. purchasing through your local shop. Without local support it makes it that much harder to get great equipment.

Take some pictures now!!!
 

Flash Pot

Senior Member
Congrats... you did a great thing...
1. purchasing a great lens. You will enjoy it.
2. purchasing through your local shop. Without local support it makes it that much harder to get great equipment.

Take some pictures now!!!

I actually felt good walking out of there even knowing it cost about $18 more than getting it online. I pent some time there yesterday getting some education and thought the least I could do was buy from them.
 

RON_RIP

Senior Member
Commercial relationships with local suppliers takes effort and sometimes costs a little more but will repay you ten-fold in the long run. You have made a smart move there and enjoy you new lens.
 

aroy

Senior Member
One thing that I discovered recently, is that the 18-55; at least my version - VR-II; makes a great macro lense, if nothing else is at hand. If the subject is more that 2 inches it can fill up the DX sensor. At 3 inches you have to back up.

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50mm prime

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18-55 at 55mm

So keep you 18-55 handy while traveling. You can take excellent close ups with it at 55mm end.
 

Flash Pot

Senior Member
Had just a few minutes to take the camera out for a few pictures with the new 35mm f/1.8G

Being totally new mopst of the shots didn't turn out very well because I had the ISO at 800. Still learning!

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480sparky

Senior Member
To put all this into perspective, I decided to do a little testing, along with adding the known information about 6 lenses.

I chose 50mm for this test for two reasons: It's about as common a focal length as you can get, plus I own three zooms that cover 50mm and three 50mm primes.

So, the contenders are:

50mmzoomvprimecontenders.jpg


Left to right:
Nikkor 28-200mm f/3.5-5.6 AF-D
Nikkor 24-85mm f/3.5-4.5 G AF-S
Nikkor 24-120mm f/4 VR G
Nikon 50mm f/1.8 Series E, early version
Nikon 50mm f/1.8 AF-D
Nikon AF-S 50mm f/1.8 G

As I was near the Iowa capitol building earlier today, I thought that would make a nice test subject. I found a common place to shoot it from, with plenty of sunlight for the comparison shots:

50mmzoomvprime.jpg


Since you'd need to download the full-scale images to really see the differences between them, I'll spare you that process and post both center and corner, 100% crops from all 6 lenses.

To make this a fair test, I used a tripod with a remote, and chose ISO 100 and f/8 for all the lenses. As the lighting changed slightly between lens changes, the shutter speeds will vary slightly. But being in the sun, the shutter speed was high enough to not be a factor.

I let the five AF lenses auto-focus, and used the viewfinder rangefinder to focus the Series E lens.

And so, here's the results:

28-200 AF-D:

128200center.jpg


128200corner.jpg



24-85 AF-S G

22485Center.jpg


22485Corner.jpg



24-120 AF-S G

324120center.jpg


324120corner.jpg.html




50/1.8 Series E

450Ecenter.jpg


450Ecorner.jpg



50/1.8 AF-D:

550Dcenter.jpg


550Dcorner.jpg



50/1.8 AF-S G:

650Gcenter.jpg


650Gcorner.jpg



As you can readily see, the primes are sharper and have better contrast. Issues such as distortion, vignetting, etc. are not part of this comparison.

So here's the specs:

Size:
Nikkor 28-200mm f/3.5-5.6 AF-D......................78 x 87mm
Nikkor 24-85mm f/3.5-4.5 G AF-S...............73 x 72mm
Nikkor 24-120mm f/4 VR G.........................84 x 103mm
Nikon 50mm f/1.8 Series E, early version......33 x 63mm
Nikon 50mm f/1.8 AF-D.............................38 x 64mm
Nikon AF-S 50mm f/1.8 G..........................53 x 72mm

Weight:
Nikkor 28-200mm f/3.5-5.6 AF-D......................520 or 555g, depending on age
Nikkor 24-85mm f/3.5-4.5 G AF-S...............415g
Nikkor 24-120mm f/4 VR G.........................708g
Nikon 50mm f/1.8 Series E, early version......135g
Nikon 50mm f/1.8 AF-D.............................155g
Nikon AF-S 50mm f/1.8 G..........................185g

Filters:
Nikkor 28-200mm f/3.5-5.6 AF-D......................72mm
Nikkor 24-85mm f/3.5-4.5 G AF-S...............67mm
Nikkor 24-120mm f/4 VR G.........................77mm
Nikon 50mm f/1.8 Series E, early version......52mm
Nikon 50mm f/1.8 AF-D.............................52mm
Nikon AF-S 50mm f/1.8 G..........................58mm

And, of course.......Price:
Nikkor 28-200mm f/3.5-5.6 AF-D......................Out of production: Used street prices vary from $130 to 250.
Nikkor 24-85mm f/3.5-4.5 G AF-S...............New: $600 Used: $325
Nikkor 24-120mm f/4 VR G.........................New: $1300 Used: $850+
Nikon 50mm f/1.8 Series E, early version......Out of production: $50 street price.
Nikon 50mm f/1.8 AF-D.............................New: $135 Used: $80-100
Nikon AF-S 50mm f/1.8 G..........................New: $220 Used: $125


And THAT's why everyone should have at least on prime. Maybe not 50mm, but a prime of a focal length they use a lot... whether it be 20mm or 28mm or 35mm or 85mm or 100mm or 200mm. Primes just can't be beat on this field.
 

Flash Pot

Senior Member
To put all this into perspective, I decided to do a little testing, along with adding the known information about 6 lenses.

I chose 50mm for this test for two reasons: It's about as common a focal length as you can get, plus I own three zooms that cover 50mm and three 50mm primes.

So, the contenders are:

50mmzoomvprimecontenders.jpg


Left to right:
Nikkor 28-200mm f/3.5-5.6 AF-D
Nikkor 24-85mm f/3.5-4.5 G AF-S
Nikkor 24-120mm f/4 VR G
Nikon 50mm f/1.8 Series E, early version
Nikon 50mm f/1.8 AF-D
Nikon AF-S 50mm f/1.8 G

As I was near the Iowa capitol building earlier today, I thought that would make a nice test subject. I found a common place to shoot it from, with plenty of sunlight for the comparison shots:

50mmzoomvprime.jpg


Since you'd need to download the full-scale images to really see the differences between them, I'll spare you that process and post both center and corner, 100% crops from all 6 lenses.

To make this a fair test, I used a tripod with a remote, and chose ISO 100 and f/8 for all the lenses. As the lighting changed slightly between lens changes, the shutter speeds will vary slightly. But being in the sun, the shutter speed was high enough to not be a factor.

I let the five AF lenses auto-focus, and used the viewfinder rangefinder to focus the Series E lens.

And so, here's the results:

28-200 AF-D:

128200center.jpg


128200corner.jpg



24-85 AF-S G

22485Center.jpg


22485Corner.jpg



24-120 AF-S G

324120center.jpg


324120corner.jpg.html




50/1.8 Series E

450Ecenter.jpg


450Ecorner.jpg



50/1.8 AF-D:

550Dcenter.jpg


550Dcorner.jpg



50/1.8 AF-S G:

650Gcenter.jpg


650Gcorner.jpg



As you can readily see, the primes are sharper and have better contrast. Issues such as distortion, vignetting, etc. are not part of this comparison.

So here's the specs:

Size:
Nikkor 28-200mm f/3.5-5.6 AF-D......................78 x 87mm
Nikkor 24-85mm f/3.5-4.5 G AF-S...............73 x 72mm
Nikkor 24-120mm f/4 VR G.........................84 x 103mm
Nikon 50mm f/1.8 Series E, early version......33 x 63mm
Nikon 50mm f/1.8 AF-D.............................38 x 64mm
Nikon AF-S 50mm f/1.8 G..........................53 x 72mm

Weight:
Nikkor 28-200mm f/3.5-5.6 AF-D......................520 or 555g, depending on age
Nikkor 24-85mm f/3.5-4.5 G AF-S...............415g
Nikkor 24-120mm f/4 VR G.........................708g
Nikon 50mm f/1.8 Series E, early version......135g
Nikon 50mm f/1.8 AF-D.............................155g
Nikon AF-S 50mm f/1.8 G..........................185g

Filters:
Nikkor 28-200mm f/3.5-5.6 AF-D......................72mm
Nikkor 24-85mm f/3.5-4.5 G AF-S...............67mm
Nikkor 24-120mm f/4 VR G.........................77mm
Nikon 50mm f/1.8 Series E, early version......52mm
Nikon 50mm f/1.8 AF-D.............................52mm
Nikon AF-S 50mm f/1.8 G..........................58mm

And, of course.......Price:
Nikkor 28-200mm f/3.5-5.6 AF-D......................Out of production: Used street prices vary from $130 to 250.
Nikkor 24-85mm f/3.5-4.5 G AF-S...............New: $600 Used: $325
Nikkor 24-120mm f/4 VR G.........................New: $1300 Used: $850+
Nikon 50mm f/1.8 Series E, early version......Out of production: $50 street price.
Nikon 50mm f/1.8 AF-D.............................New: $135 Used: $80-100
Nikon AF-S 50mm f/1.8 G..........................New: $220 Used: $125


And THAT's why everyone should have at least on prime. Maybe not 50mm, but a prime of a focal length they use a lot... whether it be 20mm or 28mm or 35mm or 85mm or 100mm or 200mm. Primes just can't be beat on this field.


Wow! Thank you so much for this informative post! Being new, I find I learn by visuals much better than by words!
 

aroy

Senior Member
With primes you just move around to get the framing and perspective just as you want it to be. Yes zooms obviate the changing of lenses but the price you pay is in IQ, weight and the price.

I am so used to shooting with primes, that even with zooms I am either at the 18mm end or the 55mm end of my kit zoom. For framing and POV my first reaction is to move up and down. Till date, barring interior shots, I have never had to use the zoom to frame it just right.
 

aroy

Senior Member
To put all this into perspective, I decided to do a little testing, along with adding the known information about 6 lenses.

I chose 50mm for this test for two reasons: It's about as common a focal length as you can get, plus I own three zooms that cover 50mm and three 50mm primes.

So, the contenders are:

50mmzoomvprimecontenders.jpg


Left to right:
Nikkor 28-200mm f/3.5-5.6 AF-D
Nikkor 24-85mm f/3.5-4.5 G AF-S
Nikkor 24-120mm f/4 VR G
Nikon 50mm f/1.8 Series E, early version
Nikon 50mm f/1.8 AF-D
Nikon AF-S 50mm f/1.8 G
..............

And THAT's why everyone should have at least on prime. Maybe not 50mm, but a prime of a focal length they use a lot... whether it be 20mm or 28mm or 35mm or 85mm or 100mm or 200mm. Primes just can't be beat on this field.

I agree with your conclusion. In fact I have seen a lot of similar tests done. Here are some

Seven 50mm prime lenses for Nikon F-mount compared by Cary Jordan | Nikon Rumors
Nikon 50mm f/1.2 Sharpness Comparison
 

K_tuzon

New member
I have a 35mm and a 50mm prime lens and it's great! I absolutely love it! I pretty much keep the kit in the bag. I don't mind stepping in or moving back while taking the picture. The quality of the shoot is superb and crisp. You won't regret it.

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