What is Lawrence up to - 2015?
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It was fast action horses so I don't think aperture was appropriate - but note the word think (foreign to me). I have a lot to learn
Your too hard on yourself Lawrence! You clearly are a photographer. There are/were heaps in your 365 we would have loved to have shot.... Methinks this TC thing could be the problem too. It doesn't show in your sig. What brand is it?
I think chickens may have been a better option for fox lures
I think chickens may have been a better option for fox lures
LOL what to lure the chickens with?
The TC is a Tokina
Edit: looking back on my 365 there were some very nice shots but when I have a day like yesterday I conclude that they were flukes. It's not as if I say "Right this is my intention, these are the settings I need" and shoot and then fire away and get the imagined result. Anyway enough negativity.
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Ok, then it was the TC IMHO. You're shooting fast action, and you're slowing your lens down with a TC.
This is why everytime I hear the phrase "It's not the equipment it's the person behind it"" I want to pull my hair.
Yes, sometimes it is correct but not always.
I don't care who you are, you take a D5100, put a 70-300 with a TC on it, with less than optimal light and try to shoot fast action, it ain't happening.
You'll take fantastic landscapes all day long with that setup, but fast horses in low light...No Sir Ree Bob.
Except of course that it was a bright day!
Then why couldn't you get a fast enough shutter speed? I'm going to re-read this whole thing. I may have missed something.
Vixen
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Don't feel bad Lawrence. I don't think like that either. I have no understanding at all about lots of the technical stuff like ev, stops etc. I think I must have my own little language that covers all this in my brain because I certainly get totally lost when reading stuff about the technical aspect of photography. I just do what works for me. If it's not conventional, or what is considered proper & correct, I don't care as long as it works for ME
I am trying to understand, but MAN!! it gets so much harder as you get older doesn't it?
Don't feel bad Lawrence. I don't think like that either. I have no understanding at all about lots of the technical stuff like ev, stops etc. I think I must have my own little language that covers all this in my brain because I certainly get totally lost when reading stuff about the technical aspect of photography. I just do what works for me. If it's not conventional, or what is considered proper & correct, I don't care as long as it works for ME
I am trying to understand, but MAN!! it gets so much harder as you get older doesn't it?
I'm just trying to get to a point where the result is not a surprise.
Either good or bad.Hope that makes sense.
Pete I think the TC in combination with the 70-300 was a mistake. Have been reading up and watching Nikon vids and it seems that I was asking too much of the camera especially at the relatively slow shutter speed of 1/400th which, as Scott pointed out, was barely equal to the focal length of the lens being used.
I am back in the field today without the TC and will shoot some cricket action to test what I think I have learnt.
Vixen
Senior Member
I'm just trying to get to a point where the result is not a surprise.
Hope that makes sense.
I think it takes longer to get to that point if you are shooting many different subjects/styles, because you need to remember different settings eg doing macro, the settings don't necessarily cross over to birds in flight. For myself, I did LOTS of landscapes (and only landscapes) for quite a while until I got comfortable with them. Then I did LOTS of long shutter exposure water shots, to the point where I didn't even have to thinks about what I was doing. Then I started to mix it all up and throw in macro & the super zoom etc and now I have to think about the set up for everything.....AND.....I almost ALWAYS forget one of the settings (usually ISO)
Just trying to say you are not alone. I at least understand. Don't give up
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Thinking like that will not make you a photographer, but it will make you think you are a photographer, in which case your thinking will have caught up to your talent.
Forgetting how the numbers work together, start with what you know you need; in this case a high shutter speed of 1/1000 minimum for the lens/tc handheld and faster depending on the action you want to stop. Set the aperture wide open and take a reference shot: if too much exposure, stop down; if too little, bump the ISO. When you find the settings you need, there's no need to change unless the light changes significantly. A little fluctuation in lighting can easily be adjusted in post.
wud
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As I remember, TC takes a stop or 2 of light - correct me if I'm wrong.
300mm also requires more light. So that's probably the main issue you had..
I wonder about the images - you wrote they looked good on camera display? Have you deleted them? I think it could be useful for you to look at camera AND computer screen at the same time, to compare what you are seeing.
A long time I had slightly underexposed images, when I compared with my images on computer, it turned out my camera display showed them way to bright... doh. And I actually did it myself as I couldn't always see them properly when out shooting in bright daylight.
Do you normally shoot manual? I remember as you do - if yes, how come shutter priority yesterday?
I don't know what metering you use but of you meter on a bright white horse, or a black, the camera will give you 2 very different exposures. If you shoot manual and you have your scene in front of you, you won't have to change all that often. If the weather doesn't change a lot, that is. But even if you shoot A or S, you'll have to keep attention to the settings your camera are choosing, as it all depends on the metering....
I hope you'll have a go with your zoom again today, without the TC, I'll look forward to hear if that was the main problem - keep shooting Lawrence, the settings will get easier! But then you'll just be facing new challenges lol.
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300mm also requires more light. So that's probably the main issue you had..
I wonder about the images - you wrote they looked good on camera display? Have you deleted them? I think it could be useful for you to look at camera AND computer screen at the same time, to compare what you are seeing.
A long time I had slightly underexposed images, when I compared with my images on computer, it turned out my camera display showed them way to bright... doh. And I actually did it myself as I couldn't always see them properly when out shooting in bright daylight.
Do you normally shoot manual? I remember as you do - if yes, how come shutter priority yesterday?
I don't know what metering you use but of you meter on a bright white horse, or a black, the camera will give you 2 very different exposures. If you shoot manual and you have your scene in front of you, you won't have to change all that often. If the weather doesn't change a lot, that is. But even if you shoot A or S, you'll have to keep attention to the settings your camera are choosing, as it all depends on the metering....
I hope you'll have a go with your zoom again today, without the TC, I'll look forward to hear if that was the main problem - keep shooting Lawrence, the settings will get easier! But then you'll just be facing new challenges lol.
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Mai thanks for your comments, questions and input.
Yes that TC does take a few stops and with the 70-300/Lawrence combination is not a good thing.
Photos are deleted for sure - never want to see them again.
I do normally shoot manual and was trying A and S after reading a magazine. I figured I should at least be able to shoot in those modes when the situation required.
I went out yesterday and took some very fast shutter speed shots - in manual - with the 70-300 but without the TC. Results were much better. I was going to say 100% better but 100% of bad is really bad.
So I am a lot happier today.
The TC will be limited to shorter focal lengths. Going to try it with my macro lens today out of interest.
Taken at 1/2000
Can't even begin to compare with the one's I binned.
And then one of the many hundreds of very colourful and happy Zimbabwe supporters. They sang and danced throughout the day encouraging their side to perform beyond their fighting weight. They really added to the atmosphere.
this lady was a typical example.
Can't even begin to compare with the one's I binned.
And then one of the many hundreds of very colourful and happy Zimbabwe supporters. They sang and danced throughout the day encouraging their side to perform beyond their fighting weight. They really added to the atmosphere.
this lady was a typical example.
wud
Senior Member
Automatic will never be the best thing to shoot in - unless your scene is very "flat" (not boring, but without big differences in shadows and highlights) - as you can make a decision about what you want, the camera can't. It will just do it's best to make the scene even.
But glad to hear and see, you had a completely different experience today
But glad to hear and see, you had a completely different experience today
My son and daughter-in-law.
Normally he doesn't like me taking my camera with when he is around. Yesterday he asked me to take a photo of them.
Surprises never cease ...
I tried to get that straw out of his face but landed up giving him a deformed ear ...
So the straw stays.
Normally he doesn't like me taking my camera with when he is around. Yesterday he asked me to take a photo of them.
Surprises never cease ...
I tried to get that straw out of his face but landed up giving him a deformed ear ...
So the straw stays.
