We've all been had by Nikon!!!!

[AC016]

At least that is what one guy thinks. Perhaps there is some truth to it. After all, we are suckers for good hyped marketing!

Ken Rockwell's Photography Updates

Just go down to the article, "D600, D800 and D4: all the same guts!"

 

[aZuMi]

Wow, who'd have thought the D600 was already out since then. But either way, I can't complain since I got the cheapest of the batch.

 

[Billy Y.]

I find Ken Rockwell a bit amuzing - He is always ripping on Nikon and putting them down, yet he has shot with them for decades. I do like his lens advice sometimes, but trust Photozone.de for almost all my lens info.

 

[slowpoke]

Sold,I'll buy a D600 when I wear out my D90.Shame on Nikon.

 

[Dave_W]

Wow...Ken Rockwell has gone off the deep end. All three cameras use different sensors while the D800 and D4 share the same AF system, the D600 is shares neither sensor or AF systems. There seems to be a clear point in time when Rockwell jumped ship to Canon and after years of lauding Nikon's, he suddenly reverses himself and now nothing from Nikon can match Canon's quality. I wonder how much Canon paid him to defect and become their new interenet spokesman?

 

[jdeg]

That reads like a conspiracy theorist that doesn't have his facts straight. Because two things have the same processing power doesn't mean they are the same. That's like saying two cars with the same motor are the same car and one shouldn't cost more than the other.

Today, Nikon's 2012 FX trio of D600, D800 and D4 obviously were all designed and manufactured at the same time

So what?? Every company that has ever produced more that 2 products probably designed and built them around the same time to cut down on costs, and be more efficient. News flash - the R/T version of your car was designed and built at the same time as the SE version!

The D800 and D800E were announced in February, and likewise, my D800 arrived the same day in March as the D4 I had on order. The D800 wasn't found sitting in stock until September.

The D600 was announced on a Thursday in September, and was in stock on Tuesday as soon as the trucks arrived.

I know that he knows at least a little bit about how marketing works. These statements are pure filler BS to somehow give people another reason to get mad.

Simple technology tells us that with the D4's big battery that Nikon would put more computing power in it...

"Simple Technology' ? WTF is that supposed to mean? He knows nothing about how CPU's use power. Furthermore, if it doesn't need more computing power then why would Nikon just add it? I don't think there was ever a debate about the D4 being underpowered.

I could go on, but I don't feel like wasting any more time picking apart drivel. Shame on you Ken Rockwell.

 

[stmv]

as an engineer, kinda a silly rant, of course, designers try to reuse as much as possible, otherwise the cost would be far higher. Trust me, you would not want a different processing engine, different focus meters, and even control functions, the overlapping functions help improve overall quality.

Pick up a D7000/600 and then pick up a D800, the build quality difference is noticable immediately. I have dropped D300 right on pavement and it kept on ticking, do the same to a D7000, and expect a serious crack across the frame.

Little things like Bracket depth can make huge differences.

pixel depth, well, so far, I appreciate the d800 over the D700 for the details and ability to have increased crop flexibility. Sometimes the picture can be saved just by having the crop flexibility of moving the frame around the shot.

Glad he loves his D600, I would love to have a D600/D800 pairing, but already have a D7000, and the difference between a D7000 and D600 is not as much of a delta.

In the end, I am glad Nikon has such a wide set of choice,, just like in the film days, one had quality range from EM right to F3. I shot with FMs, FE, FAs, and F3.

It is true that photographers no longer have to spend a fortune for great shots. Heck, 5100 is on sell now for 500 dollars, and that is a holy cow. Think of it, a quality SLR for the price of a high price point and shoot. A d7000 sensor for half the price!

laughs,, my post is risking getting as long as Ken's,, but, I am not making any hidden endorsements.

 

[jcottone45]

That reads like a conspiracy theorist that doesn't have his facts straight. Because two things have the same processing power doesn't mean they are the same. That's like saying two cars with the same motor are the same car and one shouldn't cost more than the other.



So what?? Every company that has ever produced more that 2 products probably designed and built them around the same time to cut down on costs, and be more efficient. News flash - the R/T version of your car was designed and built at the same time as the SE version!


I know that he knows at least a little bit about how marketing works. These statements are pure filler BS to somehow give people another reason to get mad.



"Simple Technology' ? WTF is that supposed to mean? He knows nothing about how CPU's use power. Furthermore, if it doesn't need more computing power then why would Nikon just add it? I don't think there was ever a debate about the D4 being underpowered.

I could go on, but I don't feel like wasting any more time picking apart dribble. Shame on you Ken Rockwell.

Anytime I hear that morons name I continue to wonder how he has survived this long, as I don't bother to read his garbage is he still looking for handouts to feed his growing family????

 

[Sambr]

If anyone listens or takes his advice they deserve what they get!! Remember the D600 will only be as good as the next release then it too will be garbage(according to KR)

 

[Photowyzard]

Ken went to the dark side some time ago and lost any objectivity he may have had. In my opinion, this drivel is just another blow to his credibility. I couldn't finish reading it, the premise presented is simply ridiculous.

 

[Disorderly]

Ken Rockwell is famous for having written a review of a product he'd never seen, much less used. He's a click whore who writes for ad revenue and not to actually educate or inform. Believe what he says at your peril.

 

[Ruidoso Bill]

I cannot think of anyone with true professional credibility that would ever quote what this quack has to say, way out of touch and technical incompetence is what I think when I read or hear of KR. Sad thing is the new folks to photography just might believe him, how about a "KR" warning like on cigarette packs.

 

[Dave_W]

I'd venture to say there's a small fortune waiting to be made selling "Ken Rockwell is a douche" stickers in bumper and camera bag sizes. Heck, a website with that name along with the stickers would more than pay for itself and then some.

 

[Dave_W]

Actually, on that same line, I'll be stickers like "Nikon Rules" or "Canon Sucks" as well as the opposite "Nikon Sucks" would also sell very well.

 

[Dave_W]

Ouch....read some of these posts. I guess we're not alone in thinking this guy is out there

Ken Rockwell on “Nikon’s Big Deception” with the D600, D800 and D4

 

[AxeMan - Rick S.]

Considering the source, I not a bit surprised. I'm sure in time he will change this to something else which again is typical of what he does. He'll write one thing then come back in time and change it or delete it.

At one time this guy was a salesman, he knows what he's doing. By writing this everyone is going to visit his web page to see / read it, and that does what? Makes you go visit his site, and that is what he wants you to do.

He does not care about cameras or photographs, all he cares about is making money.

If you notice most of the veterans here do not have anything good to say about the man. While some of the "newer" folks here think he's a God. Everyone has their own opinions and I respect that. I caution all the new people to educate themselves on who give good advise and who does not.

For you newer people you might want to take a few minutes to read this:

Buyer Beware: Ken Rockwell | Anthony Hereld Photography

 

[AC016]

Good ole KR. I don't really pay much attention to what he writes. I read it and move on, just like a lot of stuff on here. In the end, it is only his opinion and i think people need to start realising that and not get their knickers in a twist about him. Ultimately, we have to make our own decisions and take responsibility for it. Whoever this Anthony fellow is, sounds like he has a hard-on for KR. His little rant has as many holes in it as does swiss cheese - and as pointed out in the comments. This whole interweb thing is taken to seriously

 

[Browncoat]

Whoever this Anthony fellow is, sounds like he has a hard-on for KR. His little rant has as many holes in it as does swiss cheese - and as pointed out in the comments. This whole interweb thing is taken to seriously

I'm this Anthony fellow.

Here's the kick in the pants: my article quotes Ken Rockwell directly. There is no denying the cold, hard facts. That article continues to bring in over 100 hits each and every day, and I constantly receive emails from people thanking and agreeing with me. Some don't, but the overwhelming majority does.

"This whole interweb thing" should be taken seriously. KR bills himself as an expert and purposely built a website that exploits how search engines work to elevate himself to the top of search rankings for photography-related advice. He claims to be a simple doofus, some lone-wolf crusader who's just looking out for the little guy and writing unbiased reviews. The reality is, he's a wolf in sheep's clothing.

KR is certainly entitled to his reviews and opinion. The problem is, he then tries to pawn those opinions off and turn them into cash by conveniently placing 500 links in front of the viewer.

 

[AC016]

I'm this Anthony fellow.

Here's the kick in the pants: my article quotes Ken Rockwell directly. There is no denying the cold, hard facts. That article continues to bring in over 100 hits each and every day, and I constantly receive emails from people thanking and agreeing with me. Some don't, but the overwhelming majority does.

"This whole interweb thing" should be taken seriously. KR bills himself as an expert and purposely built a website that exploits how search engines work to elevate himself to the top of search rankings for photography-related advice. He claims to be a simple doofus, some lone-wolf crusader who's just looking out for the little guy and writing unbiased reviews. The reality is, he's a wolf in sheep's clothing.

KR is certainly entitled to his reviews and opinion. The problem is, he then tries to pawn those opinions off and turn them into cash by conveniently placing 500 links in front of the viewer.

Yada yada yada.... i could care less. Have a nice day

 

[Browncoat]

I won't make your job any more difficult, Jack. I'll just leave that one alone. The Force is not strong enough with him.