To all - thank you to those who were nice.

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jasno999

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I have been a member of this community for like 2 weeks- I joined because I wanted to get some help with camera pricing and ask a few questions. Thought it would be a good place to get some information and talk to people with experience.

I have met a few very nice people who have offered help and given me great inputs. But sadly I have run into even more people who are mean and unhelpful. Honestly I don't understand it.

Even some of the moderators seem to be mean- sorry that I don't knwo all the site rules nor do I have time to thumb thru each section on rules- I get having some basic rules but this is a message board - people should be able to learn as they go without the unfriendly posts. Hey maybe nobody means to be rude or mean - that is jsut the problem of the textual word - you need to be carefull how your write something because when read by others context can be lost...
 
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ohkphoto

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jasno999 said:
. . . sorry that I don't knwo all the site rules nor do I have time to thumb thru each section on rules- I get having some basic rules but this is a message board - people should be able to learn as they go without the unfriendly posts. Hey maybe nobody means to be rude or mean - that is jsut the problem of the textual word - you need to be carefull how your write something because when read by others context can be lost...
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This is not just a message board. This is a forum and if you paid attention to any of the posts, you would see this is a very helpful community. I read through all the responses to your critique post. No one was rude to you, but simply requested that you post more info and suggested you read the rules. If you had done that, you would then have understood WHY you should post only one photo, and WHY it should be your best work. Instead, you chose to ignore the requests, which is rude in itself, and then post this tacky comment of how we're "mean."

Don't fault others for your shortcomings. . . it's called growing up.
 
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WhiteLight

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I went through all your posts Jason & i think some posts you are referring to as 'rude' are wither said in jest or to help us help you...
Am sorry to say that if you expected anything 'nicer' then you've set really wrong expectations...
I have seen people answer the same question over and over again to any new member & trust me that takes a lot of patience where a simple search would've gotten them the answer...
Anyhow am sure you'll get over this 'hurdle' and start to feel at home like i do & like most others do...
Compare this board to the real world & you'll probably feel heaven is a harsher place...
enjoy your photography mate.. doesn't matter what people think or don't think of ya!
 
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FastGlass

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I agree with most of what you've said. I've left other sites over the same issues you list. But I think you've had a bad first experiance. This site is differant. Of course every once and awhile you'll get the ass that just has to let you know this question has been answered a hundred times. Even though it takes less time to just answer the question.
If I come across a post that falls into this catigory, I just move on. I value my time and giving negative comments doesn't solve anything. Stick around, i'm sure you'll change you're mind. And to all of you who are reading this post. Not everyone has time to search hundreds of threads to see if their question has been answered.
 
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Mfrankfort

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It sounded like everyone was just trying to help. And the moderators always ask you to fill out your profile. It's their thing... Look at any new person joining.
 
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Don Kuykendall_RIP

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I will tell everyone again why we constantly ask. Many people do not fill out the profile and they ask a question about something and the first thing we have to ask is What kind of camera are you shooting. Well if the profile had been filled out maybe we could have answered the question. Yes, some questions it does not matter but we assume you are going to ask more questions in the future so lets get that out of the way now. Where you are from. No we really don't care but sometimes it does matter. If you are from the USA you can't buy a camera from Japan and get it warrantied. If your are from England you might not want to order from an American firm because shipping would be 5 times as much. These are things that have come up in the last couple of weeks. We are not asking for your Street address but at least the country or State would be nice. All the moderators are volunteers and we get no money for doing what we do. We do it because we enjoy photography and all of us enjoying helping others.

We do answer a lot of questions every day that if you read the manual you would find the answer. If not there then Google is a great source and I am constantly on Google searching for answers for myself and people on this forum. Those are things everyone should do before that ask here. I have questions all the time that I can not find the answer for or just can't understand so I ask here and most of the time I get the answer. I would never just ask here before I had exhausted my other choices first.

Do we have rules? Yes. They are there to help us and you to get the information you are wanting. We spend our time to help and the least you could do is to take a minute and read them.
 
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Bill16

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I tend to empathize with the forum staff, having held positions on staff of a few forums myself. I don't think any issue would have come up if your reply to the staff hadn't been an argument against the staff's request. When the staff's reason for this request was explained, the reply was more arguments. The info that could have been put into the profile saving this issue, was eventally shared in the thread anyway.
With this being a forum, there are a lot of different personalities, and so a few ruffled feathers can happen. But I think if you give yourself the chance to really get to know some of the members here, I honestly believe you would find yourself feeling at home here with friends if you want some. :)
Please keep in mind that it is more often than not, easier to ask a question than it is to answer one. And any help we can give in making it easier for the person trying to answer our question is something I believe we should strive to do if reasonable. That is why the staff request of "every" new member, that they please fill out their profile. :)
​I hope this explanation will be of some help to you in understanding the staff on forums. :)
 
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JudeIscariot

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I've also been here for about two weeks, but I've had the exact opposite feeling about the forums.

I find everybody helpful, insightful, and friendly. The only time I really had to roll my eyes was a really dumb, incorrect post on a controversial topic that was locked pretty quickly anyway. Overall, people are nice here... I don't see what problems you are having.
 
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co2jae

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ohkphoto said:
This is not just a message board. This is a forum and if you paid attention to any of the posts, you would see this is a very helpful community. I read through all the responses to your critique post. No one was rude to you, but simply requested that you post more info and suggested you read the rules. If you had done that, you would then have understood WHY you should post only one photo, and WHY it should be your best work. Instead, you chose to ignore the requests, which is rude in itself, and then post this tacky comment of how we're "mean."

Don't fault others for your shortcomings. . . it's called growing up.
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I dont believe this is an appropriate response from a moderator. Calling someone "rude" and "tacky" while telling them to "grow up" might be an accurate assessment but I would prefer moderators remain a little more professional and give constructive advice such as Don did when he replied. Leave the name calling to the ones who haven't earned/chosen to be the role models for the rest of us.




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mikew_RIP

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Over the years i have been a member of quiet a few photo,camera gear forums this one is the only one i have ever really committed to apart from a 3D photo forum,there are quiet a few i would never have posted pictures on because of the attitude that prevailed over the latest most expensive must have lens.
This is a great community but its quiet normal in any situation to give as well as take,as they say jump in the water is great,make some new friends.

mike
 
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Horoscope Fish said:
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I do my best to offend everyone here equally.

If I have not yet offended you, personally, please be patient.




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I have to admit it's taken me a little while to "read" you and your sense of humor . . . I have to admit that I like you ("kindof" . . . don't want to get mushy here or for you to get a "big head" :cool: :cool::eek-new: )
 
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ohkphoto

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co2jae said:
I dont believe this is an appropriate response from a moderator. Calling someone "rude" and "tacky" while telling them to "grow up" might be an accurate assessment


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You need to perhaps reread the post. I did not "call him anything". There is a big difference between my saying "You are rude" and "what you said is rude."

I stand by my original response.
 
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co2jae

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ohkphoto said:
You need to perhaps reread the post. I did not "call him anything". There is a big difference between my saying "You are rude" and "what you said is rude."

I stand by my original response.
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and I will stand by mine, after all it's just my opinion. It's not like we'll ever be at the same dinner party anyway..... ;)
 
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Billy Y.

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If you think people are rude here, don't join the Pentax forum - never seen so many inflated egos in all my years. lol
I think that you summed it all up in your original post though Jason, It is communication in a textual form, and can easily be read the wrong way. I am a very sarcastic person and I have to be careful cause what I think is a funny post can usually make someone angry. They can't see that I'm sitting there typing with a grin on my face. Anyway - I really think you should give it another chance, it doesn't take long to get into the swing of things and you will find it is a good community. There will always be someone with a rude comment here or there, but you can choose to ignore them, or you can curse at them to yourself if it makes you feel better.
 
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