Stolen photos from this site

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eurotrash

Senior Member
AxeMan - Rick S. said:
@ Stumprat & eurotrash Let's keep this civil and no name calling, this is how threads get locked. We all can learn from this experience so let's keep it in line with the forums guideline.

To answer your other question like Grandpaw said, Yes you can ban a name, you can also ban a IP address.

So you ban my name and ban my IP address. If I really got it out for you all I have to do is take my laptop down to my local Mc Donald's WiFi hot spot or any other hot spot or open home wireless router and sit outside your house and BOOM my IP address changes.

So I think it would be pretty hard to totaly block a IP address. There are some people out there I feel are smart enough to do this? I think yes. Smart enough and daring.
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Sorry, it gets me absolutely riled up..

Well there is banning a machine that's dhcp enabled and banning at the server level. If you ban or restrict at the IP level, he won't be able to access from that locale. There's also restrictions that can be enacted for a mac address at the website server level which can theoretically make access from any machine on a subnet impossible. You cold ban a machine's name, redirect their traffic to googl.com or any number of other fun things. There's always options if you really have it out for someone or are trying to maintain peace on your network/website.

And if you sat outside MY house and tried that jazz, well..you'd have a whole different set of issues unrelated to your wardriving. :D
 
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nikonpup

nikonpup

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a word of caution, every thing posted here is available on the internet. Google your user name and see what pops up.
 
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Sambr

Senior Member
It's not the site. No matter where you post it could happen. There is one way to protect your photos, and is to use a BIG Watermark - some of you berated me when I was using big watermarks - well folks I don't post any photos here or elsewhere that I think or would care if someone stole them . My best work is never going to be posted other than when someone pays me for it. In fact I will be switching back to the big watermarks anyways - and for the ones here that don't think it's cool - too bad. What good is a "dinky little watermark" that can be eliminated?? Facebook is the worst for having stuff stolen.
 
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§am

Senior Member
There is no absolute way to ban someone from getting onto this site.
You can visit a whole host of wifi areas to get over the IP ban, you can setup multiple accounts with different emails, you could do it from work, from anywhere.
Ban by MAC address? There's MAC spoofing/altering software out there that can change your MAC address, and if you have more than one NIC, then again, it's hard to block.

Where someone has the will to want to do something, there is a way.

It's sad that people stoop so low and have to resort to stealing pictures, passing them off as their own.
Those people are just scum of the earth, and good luck to them.

I'm with Sam on the watermark placement.
Even a large watermark doesn't have to be used, but a well placed one could deter anyone from trying to rip off your pictures.
The 'signatures' we all use on our photographs should still be used I think :)
 
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Rick M

Senior Member
This is terrible and certainly a risk posting pictures anywhere. Let's not let one moron ruin our experience here. I'm going to step up my watermarking, but will not let someone like this keep my work in the dark.
 
Marilynne

Marilynne

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I clicked Google, then Images. Some of my photos are out there, but when I click on them, I'm brought to my post here on Nikonites.
 
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jdeg

^ broke something
Staff member
Guys, I really feel bad about this happening. I'm doing everything I can, along with the help of the mods, to make this right. I can certainly ban people by IP, but like others have stated, I'm not sure that it would really solve anything.

This is exactly why I was thinking about making some forums exclusive to members. The only problem with this is how do you qualify a member to have access to a private forum? Post count? Number of days registered?

Regardless, I don't want the actions of one person to ruin your experience here. Posting pictures online and people stealing them is a big problem. Always make sure you watermark your images, put copyright info in the EXIF, and don't upload anything too large.
 
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eurotrash

Senior Member
Time registered? Just look at how many make it past 3 months. Let alone a year. There are far too many that simply ask a simplistic question, get an accepted answer and then abruptly leave.
 
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grandpaw

Senior Member
jdeg said:
Guys, I really feel bad about this happening. I'm doing everything I can, along with the help of the mods, to make this right. I can certainly ban people by IP, but like others have stated, I'm not sure that it would really solve anything.

This is exactly why I was thinking about making some forums exclusive to members. The only problem with this is how do you qualify a member to have access to a private forum? Post count? Number of days registered?

Regardless, I don't want the actions of one person to ruin your experience here. Posting pictures online and people stealing them is a big problem. Always make sure you watermark your images, put copyright info in the EXIF, and don't upload anything too large.
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I had just made a post on my "grandpaws image thread" about this same topic and then received a notice about a reply here. I am going to cut and past what I had just written on my thread here because it was about this very thing......



I would just like to say that I notified the administrator on the Ugly Hedgehog[SUP]SM[/SUP] - Photography Forum about my alligator picture and they responded by removing it. I would like to commend them for taking care of this and doing it quickly. There are other pictures on the site that I will be asking them about that are mine also.

Let me add that I DO NOT plan on leaving the Nikonites site and hope to be here for a long time because I have made many new friends here and enjoy being part of this site. The problem with pictures being taken can and will happen on ANY site or location on the internet so don't blame this site for the problem. Since I have been on Nikonites site I have had nothing but people willing to answer my questions or help me accomplish things that I didn't seem to be able to figure out for myself. I will still be participating in the forums and as soon as I figure out how to make and place watermarks I will be posting pictures again. This is a very friendly site and I enjoy being a part of it. My pictures will have much smaller file sizes and watermarks on them in the future.

Don't let this person spoil all the fun, I am just trying to figure out a way to deal with it the best way I can. As the old saying goes"Don't let one bad apple spoil the whole bunch".
 
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AxeMan - Rick S.

Senior Member
@ Salvatore: Your right it's not the site, and it is a risk of posting images on the internet. Going with a large water mark in my eyes even after having a photo stolen is not the answer. All that is going to do is ruin the photo then everyone is going to suffer. You know at that point why even post it.

A well place water mark such as Marcel's is a good deterrent but easily remove in Photoshop. Sorry Marcel, but I still love your watermarks!

@ SS381: As for how and why someone should be banned from any site, that is up to the Administration of any site and I sure there is a protocol in place for that so further discussion is pointless..

@Rick M: When it happened to Grandpaw I really felt bad, but when it hits home it's a whole different feeling. I don't wish it on you but if ever happens you'll see what I mean. This is going to make me think twice now what I shot and what I post, I think the damage is done.

@ Jdeg: I do watermark my images and keep my EXIF data up to date, but it didn't help in this case. I know there is nothing more you can do and thank you for all you have done. I guess if we choose to share our photos it's a risk we are going to have to take.

In our case it appears that action has been taken, and the Administration has gone beyond our site by contacting other sites to inform them of the actions by the said offender. Kudos to the mod's for going above and beyond the call of duty here. That's why they make the big bucks. Thank you for devoting you time to the site.

So I guess the question is, keeping in mind there is a good chance it could happen again by anyone. What kind of action can "we" take to prevent it happening again outside of the points we have brought up? I would hope not posting would not be the answer.

This is kind of a double post as others have posted while I have been typing this and we bring up some of the same points.
 
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stmv

Senior Member
my advice to people on this and another site I post on, is that never ever post any image larger than 360K because the basic assumption is that all content on the internet will be reused by someone, its the culture of today's world.

I know that their are screen shot companies that quote give away the screen shots, hence free, they make their money via ad revenues on their site, so, they will steal images.

So, I post shots on the internet knowing most likely, they will be stolen, taken without my permission, but I have the sole ownership/source files, and would always be able to prove that someone stole a picture.

Sorry to hear your shots got ripped off, up to you on whether or not you want to continue to share. For, me the fun of sharing outweights the crud of people stealing my photos.

but again, never put the source/full size files up on the net.
 
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UmarPk

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What's surprising is you guys snapped photos that someone would want to steal. Also don't you guys think you're blowing this out of proportion?
 
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AC016

AC016

Senior Member
UmarPk said:
What's surprising is you guys snapped photos that someone would want to steal. Also don't you guys think you're blowing this out of proportion?
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First of all UmarPK, your opening statement about being surprised that anyone would want to steal our work, will not make you any friends around here.

Photography is a form of art. Pictures are somebody's creation, despite what you may think. It has taken them time and effort to take the photos they took. For the bird photos i posted up here, i sat for hours in 12 degree celcius weather to get the birds i wanted to get. Not only that, but i took far more photos than i posted and sifted through them on my PC to see which ones were the ones i wanted to keep - with a 400mm MF lens with no VR, that tends to happen. Therefore, with all that time and energy spent on taken photos, why on earth would i not be pissed off if someone came along and claimed it as theirs?? Yes, most of on here are "hobbyists". But we take pride in what we do! We actually care about what happens to our photos, pieces of art to us that should not be taken for granted.
 
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pedroj

Senior Member
UmarPk said:
What's surprising is you guys snapped photos that someone would want to steal. Also don't you guys think you're blowing this out of proportion?
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Wow this statement of yours is a bit on the nose....Whats surprising???There are a lot of very good photographers on this site.....Have you ever had images stolen that have taken hours to produce then claim them as theirs
 
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Marka

Senior Member
AxeMan - Rick S. said:
Well I have now become a victim of the madcapmagishion. Some how I know it only be a matter of time before I found one of my photos being "used" and I did.

Now like Grandpaw I am sitting here contemplating my future with Nikonites. At this point I also don't know if I am going to continue to post any more photo's here on this site which will jeopardize my 365 /731 project. Sorry all this grief for a gift card? I am also contemplating whether or not to have the moderators delete my account and ALL of my photo's.

Please tell me what a person has to gain by doing this?

Right now PO'ed is an understatement

Here is the link to what I found, check the EXIF data it is still intact and copyrighted to my name.

Also a very piss poor job was done trying to cut my water mark out as you can see in my original photo below.

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Hello,

I'm an admin on City-Data Forum an I've just been notified of this issue. The photo is now removed, the person banned from using our photo forums. Please, let us know if there are any other incidents in the future, we will be glad to cooperate.

Regrds,

Marka
city-data.com
 
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