Sony A7/A7r Full Frame Mirrorless

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sonicbuffalo_RIP

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Panza said:
Thank you thank you. I see you already have two lenses for the A7. I was afraid about landing with the 28-70 kit lens as I had heard sub-par reviews about it (but then again, I loved using the 18-105 kit lens included with the D7000). The 24-70 F4 seems promising, but after experiencing the 24-70 F2.8 from the Nikon series I wonder if my standards will ever be the same again. Should post some sample pictures with both lenses on this thread. : )! I'll take some with the 55 as well.
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I am seriously thinking about getting the ..... what is it? The 12 - 24 F4 / 4.0 when it comes out.....then I'll have all the ranges covered...but I might would upgrade to the 24-70 f/4. Just got off of a cruise so now I'll have to check my pictures out later today!
 
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sonicbuffalo said:
I am seriously thinking about getting the ..... what is it? The 12 - 24 F4 / 4.0 when it comes out.....then I'll have all the ranges covered...but I might would upgrade to the 24-70 f/4. Just got off of a cruise so now I'll have to check my pictures out later today!
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Must have had a great time at least : )!
I wonder how the "Holy Trinity" will compare to the equivalent Sony Carl Zeiss versions. Very interested actually. Looking forward to the pics!
 
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Vincent

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I found nothing on the site concerning the A7SM2, A7SII or whatever you want to call it. The only people exited would be videographers seems to me: internal 4K and IBIS are a big thing for them. Personally I do not expect it to be more useful than my A7S, with the weight gone up towards DSLR level and even less battery life due to IBIS, I will not look twice at it.

After purchasing and liking the A7S for my usage, I do tend to see my next body in the Nikon line up. Still waiting for the Commlite Nikon to E adapter.
 
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Very little discussion about the electronic viewfinder. You have to power on just to see your potential shot. That must drain the battery pretty fast. I have not tried an EVF, but am curious. For now, DSLR's let me "see" the shot naturally.
 
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Blade Canyon said:
Very little discussion about the electronic viewfinder. You have to power on just to see your potential shot. That must drain the battery pretty fast. I have not tried an EVF, but am curious. For now, DSLR's let me "see" the shot naturally.
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Yes....the electronic viewfinder does drain the battery pretty much....you have to turn the camera off after a shot so it doesn't drain a lot. That and carry spare batteries. I wouldn't want a grip for it as that would defeat the purpose.
 
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Blade Canyon said:
Very little discussion about the electronic viewfinder. You have to power on just to see your potential shot. That must drain the battery pretty fast. I have not tried an EVF, but am curious. For now, DSLR's let me "see" the shot naturally.
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If you are going to raise your camera to your eye, shouldn't your camera be on anyhow? :p There are a few mirrorless cameras that have hybrid viewfinders (optical and EVF); therefore, you can still see your "shot naturally". Personally, i see my shot with my eyes. I know what i want before i raise my camera to my eye. From there, it's just a matter of composition. Though, the nice thing about the EVF, is that you can see any changes you make to your exposure (WYSIWYG). I think most people carry spare batteries anyhow, so no big deal. I for one have never run out of juice during a day of photo taking.
 
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Vincent

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AC016 said:
If you are going to raise your camera to your eye, shouldn't your camera be on anyhow? :p There are a few mirrorless cameras that have hybrid viewfinders (optical and EVF); therefore, you can still see your "shot naturally". Personally, i see my shot with my eyes. I know what i want before i raise my camera to my eye. From there, it's just a matter of composition. Though, the nice thing about the EVF, is that you can see any changes you make to your exposure (WYSIWYG). I think most people carry spare batteries anyhow, so no big deal. I for one have never run out of juice during a day of photo taking.
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Yes one of the issues is that you need to put on the A7 series before you see anything. I recently added a third battery.
WYSIWYG has advantages, but on very sunny days with sunglasses I really have had issues with it, since the sunglasses (with correction for my bad eyes) change everything. Not so with a optical viewfinder.
Last point, on high contrast scenes, I have issues with the EVF, not clear why, but I could really not see good contrast till now.
I do not say the EVF is bad, some things I can not do with optical viewfinders either. EVF is different, better in some ways, it is a personal choice when to use one or the other.
 
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Vincent

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Vincent said:
...I have issues with the EVF, not clear why, but I could really not see good contrast till now....
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I found that trying to safe battery life I put the EVF on very low energy, which was the cause of the low contrast....

Anyway wanted to share this (found him funny but absolutely to the point):

Nikon please stop making steamtrains and give us a D5M with smaller body and EVF (Sony sells some) and more FPS since there is no flipping mirror (pun intended).

PS: I recommend to look at a few things PHOTIGY does if you did not yet, he is a reference.

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Just sharing a bit of evolution of the system. I decided to add a lens to the A7s for family moments, the SEL2870, basic but fitting my need. Also a LA-EA4 adapter and a Minolta AF 100-300 APO to have a light weight telephoto solution, planning to shoot that at 300mm and f9 all the time, for light weight solution high ISO shots when in the woods. Nikon lost out on a D750 + 300mm PF sale if this works. But probably in quite some years I would want a second hand D5 for my 600mm f4 though.
 
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My recent care wreck....sorry about the sun staring me right in the face.....no way around that picture.

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sonicbuffalo_RIP

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Blacktop said:
I hope you're ok Chris. Did you get rear ended then pushed into the vehicle in front of you?
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yes Pete, exactly....the police report said I was going 0 mph, and the car that hit us from behind was going 40 mph. I felt every bit of it and my x-rays show I now have a compressed vertebrae in my back. We were extremely fortunate that we were in the Toyota Avalon, which has a fair amount of metal in it for protection. My 83 year old MIL had no injuries and she was riding up front with me. My wife's 2 sisters and her were in the back seat and all of them are ok. You should see the stack of lawyers packages we got yesterday. Amazing. By the way, the car is totaled. I've already found another Avalon, a 2013 Limited. A beautiful car with only 16k on it.
 
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Blacktop

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sonicbuffalo said:
yes Pete, exactly....the police report said I was going 0 mph, and the car that hit us from behind was going 40 mph. I felt every bit of it and my x-rays show I now have a compressed vertebrae in my back. We were extremely fortunate that we were in the Toyota Avalon, which has a fair amount of metal in it for protection. My 83 year old MIL had no injuries and she was riding up front with me. My wife's 2 sisters and her were in the back seat and all of them are ok. You should see the stack of lawyers packages we got yesterday. Amazing. By the way, the car is totaled. I've already found another Avalon, a 2013 Limited. A beautiful car with only 16k on it.
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I'm willing to bet dollars to donuts that the person that hit you was either on the phone or texting. It is an epidemic.
Driving a truck I see it every day. As I sit up real high, I can see what everyone is doing in front of me and when they pass me. At least 75-80% of the people that I see are either texting or on the handset. I saw a young lady the other day when she passed me, she had both hands on the phone texting, steering with her knees.
Glad no one got seriously hurt
 
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mikew_RIP

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Blacktop said:
I'm willing to bet dollars to donuts that the person that hit you was either on the phone or texting. It is an epidemic.
Driving a truck I see it every day. As I sit up real high, I can see what everyone is doing in front of me and when they pass me. At least 75-80% of the people that I see are either texting or on the handset. I saw a young lady the other day when she passed me, she had both hands on the phone texting, steering with her knees.
Glad no one got seriously hurt
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Not just the UK that has pratts for drivers then,a lot are getting caught after the accident because police are checking mobile phone usage and times is becoming the norm
 
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sonicbuffalo_RIP

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Blacktop said:
I'm willing to bet dollars to donuts that the person that hit you was either on the phone or texting. It is an epidemic.
Driving a truck I see it every day. As I sit up real high, I can see what everyone is doing in front of me and when they pass me. At least 75-80% of the people that I see are either texting or on the handset. I saw a young lady the other day when she passed me, she had both hands on the phone texting, steering with her knees.
Glad no one got seriously hurt
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I don't care if they're talking on the phone as long as they're using a bluetooth handsfree device....but if they're using one hand to hold the phone, no way I would agree to that. That's the problem in North Carolina....no law saying you must use hands free devices. By the way, the guy that hit me was from Pa.
 
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