SD Card...

Bill16

Senior Member
I'm still quite new to photography, just over a year now. My point is I don't know too many brands yet, but it sure seems like a great price on the cards you chose! Way cheaper than the brands I've been using!
It makes me wonder sometimes how there can be such a huge price difference on these things. Also how they justify it. Brand rep alone, or inferior cards of some of the other brands stopping working for some reason?

I am using PNY Elite Performance 64GB 90MB/s

I have two of them - one in slot1 for RAW and second one in slot2 for JPEG.

Works fine for me and I paid $70 (shipping included) for two brand new cards on eBay
PNY ELITE PERFORMANCE 64GB up to 90MB/s SDXC Card NEW SEALED PACK NOT REFURB
 

J-see

Senior Member
I'd have to check to even know the brand I'm using. I find it of little importance since I ain't shooting fps. If it works during the shooting and doesn't break down before upload, it's good enough for me.
 
I'm still quite new to photography, just over a year now. My point is I don't know too many brands yet, but it sure seems like a great price on the cards you chose! Way cheaper than the brands I've been using!
It makes me wonder sometimes how there can be such a huge price difference on these things. Also how they justify it. Brand rep alone, or inferior cards of some of the other brands stopping working for some reason?

You still need to be very careful especially on EBAY. I have heard of fake SD cards. Not exactly fake but low quality slow cards being remarked as high quality fast cards at a much higher price. Lower price than the real cards but 5 times more expensive than what they really are.
 

hagani

Senior Member
You still need to be very careful especially on EBAY. I have heard of fake SD cards. Not exactly fake but low quality slow cards being remarked as high quality fast cards at a much higher price. Lower price than the real cards but 5 times more expensive than what they really are.

There is a lot of fake stuff on eBay most of it coming from China, but if you buy from reputable seller in US you have nothing worry about. The cards I bought came in the factory packaging exactly like the one you can buy in Walmart for $56
 

aroy

Senior Member
The manufacturers test their cards. If some of them fail speed or reliability tests, then they are marked as such and sold as QA rejects. Unscrupulous traders pick such cards up, and stamp their lable on them. So beware of such cards. They can fail any time. Use them by all means, but know their limitations.
 

J-see

Senior Member
I think we need to keep in mind that SD cards are not storage devices. It's better to burn photos on a CD or DVD every so often than keep on using the same SD card. SDs are great for temporary storage but if used constantly to add and delete photos, without formatting, sooner or later it's gonna have issues.
 

yauman

Senior Member
Ok, let's get it out that and make sure everyone gets it - when a camera manufacturer - Nikon or otherwise - lists cards that are "approved" for their cameras, it strictly a business decision about money - it has absolutely no bearing on technical reality. AKA, it's a business scam so please don't get scammed. How do these card companies get their name listed as part of the "approved" list ? By paying Nikon money to put their cards through their paces with the camera. Yes, it's a pay to play and nothing more and nothing less. Sony refused to play that game so you'll not find Sony SD cards, however fast and reliable they are to be on the list of "approved" card.

As far as I know, only ScanDisk makes their own cards - in a plant in Shenzhen, China which they control. They also make it for other brands. All other brands are "re-branders." If the cards are made in the USA, they are made by Micron Technology in Milpitas, CA. Watch this video and appreciate the complexity of the manufacturing operation and imagine the cost of capital investment to start a manufacturing line to make these cards. It would not be affordable and definitely economically not viable for any one brand to make their own or to make only one product. Micron Technologies in the same plant, using the same machines, also make other memory chips, USB drive, DIMM modules and even CPU chips - that's how the economy of scale can work in their favor and make the SD cards affordable. (btw, the video is a Lexmar promotion video which states that their chips are made in Lehi, Utah - ha.. ha.. what liars.. if you watch the video, you'll sure notice that the worker on the assembly line don't look like no work force from Lehi, Utah!!!)
 
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hagani

Senior Member
Ok, let's get it out that and make sure everyone gets it - when a camera manufacturer - Nikon or otherwise - lists cards that are "approved" for their cameras, it strictly a business decision about money - it has absolutely no bearing on technical reality. AKA, it's a business scam so please don't get scammed. How do these card companies get their name listed as part of the "approved" list ? By paying Nikon money to put their cards through their paces with the camera. Yes, it's a pay to play and nothing more and nothing less. Sony refused to play that game so you'll not find Sony SD cards, however fast and reliable they are to be on the list of "approved" card.

As far as I know, only ScanDisk makes their own cards - in a plant in Shenzhen, China which they control. They also make it for other brands. All other brands are "re-branders." If the cards are made in the USA, they are made by Micron Technology in Milpitas, CA. Watch this video and appreciate the complexity of the manufacturing operation and imagine the cost of capital investment to start a manufacturing line to make these card. It would not be affordable and definitely economically not viable for any one brand to make their own or to make only one product. Micron Technologies in the same plant, using the same machines also make other memory chips, USB drive, DIMM modules and even CPU chips - that's how the economy of scale can work in their favor and make the SD cards affordable. (btw, the video is a Lexmar promotion video which states that their chips are made in Lehi, Utah - ha.. ha.. what liars.. if you watch the video, you'll sure notice that the worker on the assembly line don't look like no work force from Lehi, Utah!!!)

Agree with you 100%..
 

alfaholic

Banned
But again, my Kingston class 10 SD card does not work with D7000 and D7100, but works with P310.
At the same time, some class 4 Kingston, micro SD with adapter works just fine.

I really do not care about brands, but I do not want to spend $100 on cards and then realize they will not work with my Nikon.
 

Horoscope Fish

Senior Member
But again, my Kingston class 10 SD card does not work with D7000 and D7100, but works with P310.
At the same time, some class 4 Kingston, micro SD with adapter works just fine.

I really do not care about brands, but I do not want to spend $100 on cards and then realize they will not work with my Nikon.
SDHC is a standardized format and as such any card that is properly formatted should work in any device that accepts the format. That's the whole point of standardized formats like SDHC. Your Kingston card is no exception and if it's not doing that then the card probably needs to be reformatted with FAT32 file system (on a PC, I don't mean an in-camera "reformat" which simply rebuilds the folder structure). If that didn't make the card cross-camera compatible, as it should be, then I'd return it; because the simple fact of the matter is... All SD cards should work in any SD-compatible device 100% of the time. Kingston is a big player and i'm quite sure they'd exchange that card in a heartbeat.

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alfaholic

Banned
Thank you. I tried that and so many other things. This Kingston SD card works everywhere, 3 card readers, two laptops, 4 compact cameras, and I reformatted the card using Windows and Mac computer, in each compact camera and laptop, but it does not work only in D7000 and D7100.
I am sorry, but if this card is broken, it will not work with any other device, but it works just fine with everything else except Nikon D7000 and D7100.
 

Deleted

Senior Member
Thank you. I tried that and so many other things. This Kingston SD card works everywhere, 3 card readers, two laptops, 4 compact cameras, and I reformatted the card using Windows and Mac computer, in each compact camera and laptop, but it does not work only in D7000 and D7100.
I am sorry, but if this card is broken, it will not work with any other device, but it works just fine with everything else except Nikon D7000 and D7100.

Did you format the card with the camera?
 

Bill16

Senior Member
I'm with HF on this. I think I would return the cards and complain. That should help get you some fast action, and maybe a discount, if your lucky,on a couple new cards that work. :)

Anyway that is what I would do, if I just didn't go with a whole different brand.

No, the moment I insert SD card I get CARD ERR message.
 

Deleted

Senior Member
No, the moment I insert SD card I get CARD ERR message.

OK, try a different camera battery if you can. Check that the camera lens is seated correctly. Reseat the card in the camera by repeatedly pulling out & putting back the card. This will clean the contacts on both the card & the camera. Check that your camera has the latest firmware. If you are able, use disk management on your computer to repartition the card to default settings, then insert the repartitioned, but unformatted card into the camera & allow it to format.
 

alfaholic

Banned
I even formated the card in my Mac as Journaled so I can reformat it in the camera, but the camera simply rejects this card each and every time.
 

Deleted

Senior Member
I even formated the card in my Mac as Journaled so I can reformat it in the camera, but the camera simply rejects this card each and every time.

That's a Mac type of format. you need to let the camera format the card. Perhaps you can use the Mac Disk Utility just to erase the SD card partition?
 

alfaholic

Banned
Of course it is a Mac format, I deliberately formated the card so the camera do not recognize it and offers me to format the card, but it shows error again and again, no matter I format the card in Windows, Mac, with Acronis Disk Director in FAT, NTFS, Journaled, the card does not work with D7000 and D7100, and it works everywhere else.

Many people have the same or similar problem with Kingston sd cards.
Again, I have gb Kingston class 4 Micro SD with adapter which works well.

It is strange, but Kingston is maybe problematic and that is maybe the reason Nikon does not approve their cards.
At the same time, I had Kingston computer memory and usb drives for so many years without any problem.
 
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