Post repair dust spots, dammit
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BackdoorArts
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If I got truly disgusted I'd just make them refund my money and stick with the D800.
I am really sorry to hear about this although I must say I am not surprised. Seeing as I bought my first D600 at the beginning of March and it had the oil spot problem, I have a hard time believing the shutter problem has really been fixed. I haven't taken too many photos with this 2nd D600, but I am hesistant to take a test shot. Crikey, why does something so new manufactured by a big name company like Nikon have to be faulty with soooo many shutter problems?!! You've taken one for the team, Jake!
On the other hand...nice photo!
Looks like the Clinton Mill although I've never seen it from this point of view.
On the other hand...nice photo!
Looks like the Clinton Mill although I've never seen it from this point of view.frankly, when spending this kind of money on a camera - and think of the money spent for lenses - a company like Nikon should show greater sensitivity to an issue that compromises the quality of that camera. I have decided not to purchase a D600 to replace my D7000 until i am totally assured that the sensor dust/oil issue has been resolved, once and for all. I had contemplated selling my 7000 and lenses, taking the loss, and moving to Canon . . . but the lost money would be significant and i am not comfortable with that. So, i will wait and see what happens. However, Nikon shows little concern for their customers when they fail to resolve an issue that seems widespread. I wrote "seems widespread" because no one knows the proportion of cameras coming back for repair, or were returned because of the spots/dirt/oil. Just think how many of us are out there who have decided to wait and see what happens to this problem before we make a purchase. How much is that costing Nikon, now and in future sales? Tolerating poor quality control is a very bad corporate mistake that can come back to haunt a company. Nikon should know that.
BackdoorArts
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I have to say that I have no complaints about Nikon's response to the issue. I can't be 100% certain that this second occurrence is a faulty shutter or a somewhat random importing of tacky dust particles due to how and where I was shooting (dirty city one day, long exposures by the water the next), and I told them that. But also told them that I was not comfortable assuming the latter after experiencing the problem and I wanted them to make sure that it's not another bad shutter. They totally understood and promised to give the camera a full going over to see if there's anything else contributing to it (I cannot blame them for simply swapping out the shutter the first time). I got my prepaid shipping invoice within a day - on a Saturday - and it'll be heading for Long Island tomorrow. Hopefully I'll hear something by the end of the week.
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macjim
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I'm seriously thinking about selling mine and getting an X100s.
Mfrankfort
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Good luck Jake. Again... I think when you get your camera back, you should put it in a static/dust free bubble like hospitals.
tmcguire17
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Ive had mine since feb. after about 490 clicks it was a dust storm. Blew it out with no major change. Debated long and hard about sending it back or wet cleaning. Decided to give it a cleaning. Cleaned spotless another 1k clicks spots but not as bad blew it out and they were gone well over 3k clicks now stays pretty much spotless. As a matter of principle shouldn't have to clean a new camera but you'll have to clean it sooner or later. Id fire it atleast 3k clicks before i sent it back.
THough not a D600, i found a spot on my D7000 sensor and brought it to a local long island camera store. THey referred me to Nikon service in Melville. I brought the camera in, got a sensor cleaning for $40 but they also readjusted the automatic focus. I was very pleased with the service. Of course, living near the service center makes it very convenient to leave a camera with Nikon. THe service was so good, and fast, i am now considering once again purchasing a D600, understanding it will likely need service for oil and dust spots.
BackdoorArts
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I'm all for wet cleaning my sensor when needed (my D800 needs it after a couple thousand clicks), so I'd never send it back just for that. I may not have sent it back for these had it not been the big, dark one in the bottom left. That's a chunk of something, and 1) I want to make sure it's not the new shutter going bad, and 2) it's the kind of thing I'd be worried would scratch the sensor if not removed properly.
BackdoorArts
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Same level of scrutiny and while it had dust spots, including some persistent ones, it wasn't close to the D600. Here's a shot from the D800 after 2250 actuations without any cleaning other than the blower, taken at f22 and enhanced in Lightroom (black slider full left). None of these have shown themselves in any photos.
BackdoorArts
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What you can also see is that the dust is spread across the entire frame and not just in the "hot corners" that seem to be symptomatic of the oil & dust problem. And they're much more "speck" like and look less like perfect little drops of anything.
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macjim
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Well, I bit the bullet and ordered the X100s, and the D600 is being traded in.
Thanks Jake! I think my spots are less frequent and not as grouped together. I had never subjected prior bodies to this degree of testing at f22. I think I'll do my first wet clean soon at about 3500 shots and establish a new baseline to judge future buildup. Using primes almost exclusively on this body leads to 10-20 changes over a weekend, so there will be some "normal" dust. Your shot gives me a good idea of what "normal" should be.
BackdoorArts
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Whether or not this is "normal" I can't tell you, but it's about what I can expect considering I live backed to 40 acres of overgrown weeds and do so much shooting out in the sticks. Dust and pollen is common and all you have to do is look at the glass table on the deck after a rain to see what's out there. And given that this is not just at f22 but also has the blacks cranked via Lightroom shows that a second FX camera getting used under the same conditions is showing very differently.
