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WayneF

Senior Member
This confuses me. If a DX is just a smaller sensor, then does DX really "reach out" better? Or is it the same as shooting FX with the exact same lens and then just cropping in post? This is a genuine question; I'm not just trying to make a point. Nikon used this same argument in their D600 promotional video, that being able to switch to DX helps you reach out when it's needed. I have a D600, and the default setting for the front Fn button was FX/DX swap, which I accidentally hit while shooting some elk in Wyoming, and I swear those DX photos look really great when they go by on my screen saver.

ETA: I just read the article that WayneF linked, and it said DX is just pre-cropping an FX shot. IOW, there is no difference between shooting DX versus shooting FX and cropping in post. Does anyone have a counter-argument? I could get that Nikon puts more MP in a dedicated DX sensor than in the DX crop portion of an FX sensor, for example.


DX is a smaller sensor, and yes, it is just about precropping the lens image to be smaller. Any "reach out" or telephoto effect is simply because then we must enlarge the smaller image more, and when same size again, it does give a telephoto effect. Any post cropping would give the same telephoto effect (when similarly enlarged, magnified).

However, the DX sensor is built with more pixels in that smaller area.

So a 24 megapixel D610 FX image cropped to be DX is only 10 megapixels. Any post cropping would be the same.

A 24 megapixel D7100 DX image is 24 megapixels, in this smaller area. We are subsequently enlarging the lens image 50% more (degrading it more), but there is a noticeable pixel difference in the future enlargement capability.

Otherwise, both pre and post croppings are the same cropping idea. It is a huge otherwise however, the DX sensor has more pixels remaining.
 
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epark1281

Senior Member
With these questions, it is not yet time to spend money.
Couldn't have said it better myself. I admittedly get unfairly perturbed when I assume people simply throw money at their equipment simply because of dissatisfaction of results. There's so much to learn about photography that's absolutely not related to gear. My Olympus E-510 was limited in so many different ways, but I shot with it for 7 years and would have kept it if Olympus hadn't completely abandon their full size DSLR's in favor of their mirrorless. Perhaps the OP has mastered the D3200 and is ready to move on. Or perhaps the OP's got a lot of cash to throw at a hobby, which is fine too. But moving from a APS to a FF as a "shortcut" to better photos is somewhat misguided.
 

Pebbleheed

Senior Member
Still waiting to hear from the OP as to why they need full frame?

I've owned several DSLRs now, canon and nikon. I've always stuck with DX and canon equivalent because I have no need for full frame.

I know people who have jumped to full frame because 'it's full frame' but they didn't have a need to other than they wrongly assumed that DX was beginner stuff and FX was a necessary step up.

Many start on and stay on DX because FX isn't required for plenty of people.

What does the OP hope to get from FX that they aren't getting from DX?
 

Photowyzard

Senior Member
All excellent posts and commentary. Not much I can add.

It just so happens, I was testing two cameras today, a DX format and an FX format.

Here are two sample images. The lens is the Tamron 150-600mm.

Can you tell which is DX or FX?

The DX camera is 1/3 the price of the FX camera I used to take these two images.

Cam-A1.jpg

Cam-B1.jpg

BIMMER1.jpg

BIMMER2.jpg
 

Elliot87

Senior Member
Don't know if the OP has found this helpful but I certainly have.

I've got no plans to upgrade from my 3200 for a long while as I'm only just get to grips with the basics but as wildlife is my focus and I want that extra reach, I see little reason why I'd go over to FX.

I figure a 7100 or equivalent when I do upgrade, will have better low light capabilities than what I've got now and for me I'd be better off investing in faster glass for it.
 
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