im turned off the d810

[Horoscope Fish]

The cameras like the D300s, D4(s), D7XX, D8XX were not made to conform to the casual photographer. Which is why you would not find an "Auto" setting in camera.

In short, that's what I was trying to get at earlier... The top-end cameras cater to a more professional crowd and they simply don't use banked settings (or Scene Modes, or pop-up flash or "Auto" mode as skene points out). I work alongside a lot of professional photographers, people not just with decades of experience but Masters Degrees (required) and PhD's in the field and I'm confident none of them would use banked settings.

They just wouldn't.
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[Eduard]

You need to use Menu Banks on the D8xx. Nice example of one user's setup with detailed instructions here. Like others described in this thread, the pro-caliber bodies actually provide more granularity by saving all menu settings.

 

[J-see]

I started out shooting either A or S on the D3300 since it didn't differ much with manual. If you have two values, the third is a fixed number to get correct exposure so if I set it or the cam makes no difference.

After I upgraded to the D750 that changed and I shoot manual 95% of the time.

The reason for doing do is that in any auto-mode the cam only considers one specific value as the right one to get the "correct" exposure. The reality with these cams is that the correct exposure has become a range of possible exposures which can all be adjusted in post to get the "correct" exposure you desire. So when using any auto-mode you're constantly struggling with the cam that calculates and pushes towards the traditional exposure triangle while you have a range at your disposal out of which you pick that which benefits most for the shot you want to take. Regardless if that results into an overexposed or underexposed shot.

Any auto-mode has become too restrictive on these cams and it is less work and leads to better results if you just shoot full manual.

 

[singlerosa_RIP]

At a minimum, I use U2 on my bodies to store "normal" setting for my bodies. I shoot with back button focus and when I hand my camera off to a novice, they invariably cannot adapt to using one button to focus and another button to fire the shutter. So, U2 has the shutter release handling focus and shutter.

 

[J-see]

I have my cams customised and there's now an F-U setting should anyone else ask to shoot them.

 

[Blacktop]

i like the idea of having set start points for a shoot, i can very quickly move my dial on the 7100 from user one to user two and have an instant 2000 ss at iso 100 may get the bird in flight i need

yes its a fine camera i just cant understand why they wouldnt have banks like the d7100 that you save the settings and return to a nice start point , one of the reasons i love them is i set both to iso 100 , im sure we have all taken shots at times and realised the iso is too high from a previous shoot , anyway after googling the 800 and see the complaints about it then finding they didnt change for the 810 its sort of turned me off a little , if im spending that money i want all the features that i feel comfortable with , id be slightly dissapointed not having them , ill go for a shoot with the 800 tomorrow , its a lot different then the 7100 so i may find its not nessasary

Yes, but how fast are you changing lenses from shooting portraits on U1 to BIF on U2. I ask because I'm pretty sure you're not using the same lens.

 

[gqtuazon]

just banking settings such as single point focus or a particular meter mode , or maybe a plus one or two exposure comp for snow , i know these things are easy enough to set but there is a settings bank and to me it doesnt remember what it needs to which is a start point , as i said why even have it , it bemuses me there must be some benifit of it but i cant see why , i know my nephew is dissapointed he cant save settings , its not a deal breaker but would be a bonus to have them for some users im sure

Just about all of my Nikon cameras have the custom memory banks. The problem for me is that if I program these "banks", I end up forgetting the settings.

Overall, as a photographer, my main concerns are my shutter setting, aperture and ISO. I use RAW and I work on that file to get through my final product.

 

[egosbar]

Yes, but how fast are you changing lenses from shooting portraits on U1 to BIF on U2. I ask because I'm pretty sure you're not using the same lens.[/QUOTliE]

valid point lol , unfortunately i dont have the best lenses and i know what everyone will say now upgrade you glass not the camera which is what ill be doing before i even think my camera , so i can take portraits and bif with my zoom , im not talking studio portraits , sometimes you may even have to take a shot with the wrong lens if its happening in front of you

 

[Scott Murray]

well im baffled by nikon , my d7100 has user 1 and user 2 , i use them constantly , user 1 for portrait set at single point focus , matrix meter , aperture f5.6 , iso 100

user 2 is set for birds in flight , continuous focus (although now i use back focus so doesnt matter) shutter speed 2000 , ive set at center metering but not sure if i should be on matrix here or not

anyway my nephew just came home and he has a d800 , i couldnt believe it when he said he cant save the memory bank settings , i googled up the d810 to see if nikon had woken up and the answer surprised me , what a joke , i wouldnt buy this camera now , ill wait until one day they wake up and allow you to set it and save it each time like user one and two slot

you can save settings to you card but then you cant format it but maybe save it to the second card which i use for jpeg and just delete the photos without formatting making sure you have a copy on computer

0ff to nikon i go to voice my opinion on not buying this camera now because of that oversight , i mean why even have it

I have no use for 2 user settings as I use way more than that in a days shooting and changing settings are so easy it is not a big deal. I think the D800/810 makes up for this in many other areas.

 

[rocketman122]

I agree with egosbar. I shot a wedding last friday, the reception was outside but people also went inside. I was in and out and inside I was shooting in a specific kelvin and iso and in manual exposure, and outdoor I was shooting a different kelvin a different iso and aperture priority so there is a need to have the U1/2 on each cameras. hes absolutely correct.

 

[J-see]

I don't use them and had to check the manual. You can basically store 4 sets and just switch by pressing the info on the back and select one.

 

[FastGlass]

My D3s has a few. I used to use them but I always needed to see what I had set them to. Seemed pretty non productive so I don't use them anymore. Every situation is different so much that setting the settings in stone didn't make to much sense.

 

[skater]

I have the settings for the hockey arena we usually visit - single point focus, continuous tracking, shutter speed, a certain white balance, etc., saved in U1. It's great that I don't have to remember the settings between visits, each a few weeks apart, but we go 10-12 during hockey season. I'm surprised that some of the recent FX cameras don't have it - I would've assumed any body at the D7000 level or higher would have that feature. Good to know.

But there's nothing any of us can do about the design of the cameras...

 

[egosbar]

thats exactly the sort of reasons why it is handy and to have it and it not even work is crap, im sure the 810 is supberb but if im going to spend 3k i want to be happy with everything , if enough people want it then nikon will bow to the masses

 

[egosbar]

I have the settings for the hockey arena we usually visit - single point focus, continuous tracking, shutter speed, a certain white balance, etc., saved in U1. It's great that I don't have to remember the settings between visits, each a few weeks apart, but we go 10-12 during hockey season. I'm surprised that some of the recent FX cameras don't have it - I would've assumed any body at the D7000 level or higher would have that feature. Good to know.

But there's nothing any of us can do about the design of the cameras...

yes there is always something the consumer can do , if nikon gets enough people saying they want that then they will do it , and i agree i would of thought it a given that a higher end camera would have a better version of everything and it is handy to know

 

[egosbar]

I don't use them and had to check the manual. You can basically store 4 sets and just switch by pressing the info on the back and select one.

yes but once you use them and change something a little then that is what will open next time , i can go into user 1 and change everything but once i change modes and switch back it goes back to what i saved , not the 810

 

[egosbar]

My D3s has a few. I used to use them but I always needed to see what I had set them to. Seemed pretty non productive so I don't use them anymore. Every situation is different so much that setting the settings in stone didn't make to much sense.

thats the point they are not set in stone you can still change them its just a great start point , i know if i shoot birds in flight i want continuous focus and a fast shutter speed , so thats where it opens , just handy in a lot more ways then that take the white balance for instance like mentioned if your shooting inside and out etc

 

[gqtuazon]

thats the point they are not set in stone you can still change them its just a great start point , i know if i shoot birds in flight i want continuous focus and a fast shutter speed , so thats where it opens , just handy in a lot more ways then that take the white balance for instance like mentioned if your shooting inside and out etc

I do not know where this discontent is leading to but to me, if a camera does not have a particular feature that you need, then look for something that has it.
There are various Nikon DSLR models that are suited for various photographers such as the Nikon Df and Nikon D810a as an example. Some people like them and some don’t. Nobody is forcing anybody to buy them but they are available to those who likes them.
So, I am just scratching my head here on why create such a fuss since none of us here can do anything about it except to move on.

 

[egosbar]

its a discussion not a fuss , isnt that why forums survive , to ask questions , get answers or opinions , and i say again of course there is something you can do , ill be writing to nikon im sure others have , im sure the 810 is unreal it is just a little confusing to me as to why have a feature on a new camera that doesnt really work

 

[gqtuazon]

its a discussion not a fuss , isnt that why forums survive , to ask questions , get answers or opinions , and i say again of course there is something you can do , ill be writing to nikon im sure others have , im sure the 810 is unreal it is just a little confusing to me as to why have a feature on a new camera that doesnt really work

Understood. Good luck with your suggestion and I hope that your translated suggestion will reach the Nikon corporate design engineers here in Japan that they can understand.