First Impressions D7100
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ShallowShannon
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Congrats Pat! I know you'll enjoy it.
AxeMan - Rick S.
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Re: First Impressions D-7100
Not that much on it yet on Youtube, well at least when it comes to settings. As for "FRO", he's had a D7100 for a while now still waiting to hear what he has to say about it has not put anything out yet.
In "FRO'S" last RAW talk he did make a small comment in a displeased voice about the "choking buffer"
Corey (AKA Faymous Media) did a youtube review on the D7100 and I would have to say his review is pretty "nuts on" and so are his sample photos.
I like to remind anyone thinking about buying this camera, the buffer issues we are talking about only apply to RAW images when in continues mode.
I bought this camera knowing about this issue, and as a RAW shooter it is something I will deal with, to get the quality of images I'm getting from this camera.
If you want a camera that has a better buffer and want the same quality or better images from it, your going to have to move into full frame, and spend $1000 more. Unless you want to move into the D600, but now I getting more off topic here and I'll stop.
Not that much on it yet on Youtube, well at least when it comes to settings. As for "FRO", he's had a D7100 for a while now still waiting to hear what he has to say about it has not put anything out yet.
In "FRO'S" last RAW talk he did make a small comment in a displeased voice about the "choking buffer"
Corey (AKA Faymous Media) did a youtube review on the D7100 and I would have to say his review is pretty "nuts on" and so are his sample photos.
I like to remind anyone thinking about buying this camera, the buffer issues we are talking about only apply to RAW images when in continues mode.
I bought this camera knowing about this issue, and as a RAW shooter it is something I will deal with, to get the quality of images I'm getting from this camera.
If you want a camera that has a better buffer and want the same quality or better images from it, your going to have to move into full frame, and spend $1000 more. Unless you want to move into the D600, but now I getting more off topic here and I'll stop.
AxeMan - Rick S.
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Re: First Impressions D-7100
Faster cards do help I have the Scan Disk Extreme Pro class 10 95mb a sec but even in full DX mode after a few seconds it doesn't totally choke but you can hear it slow down quite a bit.
Yes changing into DX crop mode it going to speed up things because your dropping from 24mp to 16mp, less information to write to the buffer. I bought a camera with 24mp and I want to use them all the time, I don't like using crop mode unless I need a little more reach.
As for software update, I don't think that is going to fix the problem. I think the issues lies within the buffer itself. I think if Nikon does come out with a fix it's going to be something along the lines of over clocking your computer. It might solve the issue and make it faster but it is also going to generate heat, and that's not good if you overheat your sensor. If a hack came out of Green Lantern, I would even hesitate on installing it just for the same reason. I'm sure the people at Green Lantern are very good at what they do, how ever I'm sure this would void your warranty with Nikon and then you be left with $1200 paperweight if something went wrong.
Faster cards do help I have the Scan Disk Extreme Pro class 10 95mb a sec but even in full DX mode after a few seconds it doesn't totally choke but you can hear it slow down quite a bit.
Yes changing into DX crop mode it going to speed up things because your dropping from 24mp to 16mp, less information to write to the buffer. I bought a camera with 24mp and I want to use them all the time, I don't like using crop mode unless I need a little more reach.
As for software update, I don't think that is going to fix the problem. I think the issues lies within the buffer itself. I think if Nikon does come out with a fix it's going to be something along the lines of over clocking your computer. It might solve the issue and make it faster but it is also going to generate heat, and that's not good if you overheat your sensor. If a hack came out of Green Lantern, I would even hesitate on installing it just for the same reason. I'm sure the people at Green Lantern are very good at what they do, how ever I'm sure this would void your warranty with Nikon and then you be left with $1200 paperweight if something went wrong.
RockyNH_RIP
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Re: First Impressions D-7100
Thanks Rick! I saw a video comparison on D7100 and cards and the one you mentioned was the best and fastest... and yes, it still choked the buffer...
I am ordering one of those cards so I can get teh MAX speed that I can... The video showed both JPEG and CROP1.3 as very little slow down...
I want the max quality and have very little need for that burst and even then likely only need about 5 or 6 shots in burst..
Pat in NH
Thanks Rick! I saw a video comparison on D7100 and cards and the one you mentioned was the best and fastest... and yes, it still choked the buffer...
I am ordering one of those cards so I can get teh MAX speed that I can... The video showed both JPEG and CROP1.3 as very little slow down...
I want the max quality and have very little need for that burst and even then likely only need about 5 or 6 shots in burst..
Pat in NH
RockyNH_RIP
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Re: First Impressions D-7100
I am almost like you Rick... I want max image and do not plan to do Jpeg for speed.. I would consider Crop 1.3 if I really needed 6fps for a dozen shots but not likely.. Use of crop1.3 will likely be for reach for me... (heck, what do I know yet.. )
Pat in NH
I am almost like you Rick... I want max image and do not plan to do Jpeg for speed.. I would consider Crop 1.3 if I really needed 6fps for a dozen shots but not likely.. Use of crop1.3 will likely be for reach for me... (heck, what do I know yet.. )
Pat in NH
I don't understand this "buffer issue" Rocky is complaining about it and he hasn't even tried his 7100 out yet. I shoot wildlife especially birds with a D7000 same buffer, you know what folks it's not been a problem. My D4 is faster and impossible to choke the buffer however it's cost is 4x more too.
RockyNH_RIP
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Sam,
First off... was NOT "complaining"... just pointing out a known FACT with the 7100.. (I also stated that it was NOT an issue for me and there are work arounds) Why is it an issue on the 7100??? Because the file sizes are 1 1/2 times larger. It is so much less of a problem if a user shoots in JPEG or 1.3Crop mode as the file sizes are closer to the D7000 and perfromance is similar...
Oh, and I have not even tried my camera yet????
I stated that the 7100 was faster than my 5100 but that my 5100 would actually get more shots before it choked... I did that by testing both cameras side by side... see quote from my post below...
"While it shoots faster than my 5100, I get more shots (although slower) with my D5100. Is this critical, not for me so I am not worried... 1.3 crop, jpeg, set a slower speed like 4 fps as in my 5100 and I can surely improve the results."
I love my Nikons.... but truth be told, not everything is always perfect with them or the "company". Pointing out a known weakness is not complaining, only be honest, especially when I stated it did not affect me. Also, please read a bit closer before you accuse a user of not trying the camera.. It was clear that I was new and had not done a lot of shots but also clear that I tested the feature I was commenting on.
Have fun shooting....
Pat in NH
AC016
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Re: First Impressions D-7100
Canon EOS 7D v2 firmware tested: increases burst capacity, gives manual audio control
if Canon can do it, Nikon can.
A new firmware update can indeed increase the burst rate for raw files. Canon did it with the 7D:
Canon EOS 7D v2 firmware tested: increases burst capacity, gives manual audio control
if Canon can do it, Nikon can.
AC016
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Sambr does have a point when he brings up the D7000, for it had the same buffer issue with raw files. I think we all have to get over it and improvise and adapt. Get faster sd cards and turn off unneeded in-camera processing - nikon even suggests this in the manual. Yes, i read it.
I sometimes use my Lexar SD 133x with my D800E and they are just noticeably slower than my 400x CF cards. Getting the fastest SD cards available will speed things up a little bit but you will still have this bottle neck.
here is the site for the d5100 reference manual not the user manual pdf there are lots of pages in there Bob https://support.nikonusa.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/17325/~/user's-manual---d5100
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If it were I - body only
I would choose body only Sam. I was working on a part time gig in our local store and I was demonstrating CLS and using the other flash (on camera) as a slave. I didn't buy any since I have no use for another body (yet). Lol!
I would choose body only Sam. I was working on a part time gig in our local store and I was demonstrating CLS and using the other flash (on camera) as a slave. I didn't buy any since I have no use for another body (yet). Lol!
Ah but the seed has been planted
