sonicbuffalo_RIP
Senior Member
I think someone mislabeled this thread. It should be about the D600, NOT the D610.:eyetwitch::eyetwitch:
D610 Oil spot issue
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TL Robinson
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I'm 1200 clicks into my 610 and nary a spot or issue that wasn't fixed with the build in cleaning system.
I was going to get a 600 when the original problem crept up so I held off and decided to wait until the 610 was established enough to see what would happen. Nikon may have mishandled the issues with the 600 but the 610 is a solid camera imo - people get the vapors anytime the words "oil spot" come up but in reality it's not as pervasive of an issue as people paranoia makes it out to be....
I was going to get a 600 when the original problem crept up so I held off and decided to wait until the 610 was established enough to see what would happen. Nikon may have mishandled the issues with the 600 but the 610 is a solid camera imo - people get the vapors anytime the words "oil spot" come up but in reality it's not as pervasive of an issue as people paranoia makes it out to be....
sonicbuffalo_RIP
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Welcome to Nikonites...by the way, where is the metadata?
Horoscope Fish
Senior Member
Looks like a dirty sensor, not necessarily oil spots. A dirty sensor is something we all learn to deal with so, with that being the case, you can either watch one of the several online videos that will teach you how to clean the sensor yourself, take your camera to a local camera shop that will perform the service for you (for a fee) or send your camera to an authorized Nikon repair center to have the service performed for you (for an even bigger fee).
Learning to clean the camera sensor is easy, and you're going to need to do it a fairly regular basis, so my suggestion would be learn to do it yourself.
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BackdoorArts
Senior Member
6 months, 6000 clicks, how many lens changes (?), changes of seasons/dryness/pollen/dust/shooting conditions.
You do have a dirty sensor. You do not have a "broken" camera.
Once again I state emphatically, a DSLR is not a sealed environment, and regardless of how careful you are the outside world will get in. Just how quickly depends on the factors in my first sentence above, and many other things - but it's going to get in. You have an advanced piece of equipment, so learn how to maintain it or pay someone who does. Cars need oil changes and air in the tires. DSLRs need sensor cleanings.
You do have a dirty sensor. You do not have a "broken" camera.
Once again I state emphatically, a DSLR is not a sealed environment, and regardless of how careful you are the outside world will get in. Just how quickly depends on the factors in my first sentence above, and many other things - but it's going to get in. You have an advanced piece of equipment, so learn how to maintain it or pay someone who does. Cars need oil changes and air in the tires. DSLRs need sensor cleanings.
sonicbuffalo_RIP
Senior Member
I think he disappeared....but you could post the same image to ANY camera from ANY company at ANY given time, and see some dust particles on the filter/sensor. I just don't think Dirka is for real. Stirring the pot.
It's a shame we all now live in a "post-D600" world where common sensor dust spots are now elevated to "oil" spots by new camera owners scared to death they may have a defective camera on their hands. While I have no idea how long the D600 oil-spot hangover will last, I can say that Nikon has only themselves to blame.
I agree with what Jake says. Comparing your photo with the numerous test shots I dealt with from my D600, some of your spots are too dark to be oil. Plus there is an odd size elongated spot near the top--oil tends to be rounder. Your sensor is definitely dirty but most likely not from oil. Heck I had a spot on my D610's sensor. It was sticky and a royal pain to remove, but with patience and careful work, the sensor is now clean (lower shutter count than yours, too).
Here is a link that @Horoscope Fish shared with me. It is for a sensor loupe. This loupe really lights up the interior of the camera body plus it is no where near as expensive as other loupes.
Amazon.com: Carson SensorMag LED Lighted Cleaning Loupe for Camera Sensor, 4.5x30mm, Black (SM-44): Sports & Outdoors
And here is an excellent rocket blower. It is made by Giottos. The reason why I prefer this one is because it has a filter on its back end. That way it won't suck in dust and dirt then blow it inside your camera. It comes in 3 sizes with the largest being the best. The medium is also good, but the small doesn't move much air.
Amazon.com: Giottos AA1900 Rocket Air Blaster Large - Black: Camera & Photo
And here is an excellent video that Jake shared with me when I needed to learn how to clean my sensor. It is quite thorough. I use the Eclipse solution and the Sensor Swabs (the non-moistened ones). I read several reviews of the pre-moistened swabs leaving streaks on the sensor so I opted to buy the dry swabs and wet them myself with the Eclipse solution.
@sonicbuffalo: Dust ok, hundred of spots: not OK, the spots are the same as on my D600 (witch was replaced by a D610 by Nikon). Never had a similar problem with a D90 or D700...
Ps Is everybody who has a different opinion than you "not real"?
@BackdoorHippie: the engine of a car does not have to be cleaned evry six months: the truth is: Nikon once again made a faulty camera...
@Horoscope Fish: In the manual: "only Nikon authorised personnel is allowed to clean the low pass filter when dust can not be removed with a blower"
Ps Is everybody who has a different opinion than you "not real"?
@BackdoorHippie: the engine of a car does not have to be cleaned evry six months: the truth is: Nikon once again made a faulty camera...
@Horoscope Fish: In the manual: "only Nikon authorised personnel is allowed to clean the low pass filter when dust can not be removed with a blower"
Horoscope Fish
Senior Member
Dirt on the sensor is not a defect. It's just not. End of discussion. If this upsets you, you have two basic options: 1) Get over it or, 2) Don't use a DSLR.
Then a lot of us are voiding our warranties because many of consider cleaning the sensor a routine thing. Your options here are: 1) Learn to clean it yourself, or 2) Pay someone to do it for you.
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@hark: "too dark to be oil" ???? too green to be a leave??? too white tto be milk ???
"Plus there is an odd size elongated spot near the top--oil tends to be rounder" : this spot is just a place where three spots come together... But what you want to say is: ok 500 spots but a few of them are not oil but the 490 others are oil ???
"Plus there is an odd size elongated spot near the top--oil tends to be rounder" : this spot is just a place where three spots come together... But what you want to say is: ok 500 spots but a few of them are not oil but the 490 others are oil ???
TL Robinson
Senior Member
Did you contact Nikon? Have you had it checked out by a professional? I take a TON of photos with my 610 and have yet to see an issue, even dirt, and I change lenses quite frequently.
[MENTION=13090]Horoscope Fish[/MENTION]: Dirt on the filter is a defect when it is caused by a faulty shutter. It is, just ask someone who knows something about repairing DSLR. If this upsets you, you have two basic options: 1) Get over it or, 2) Don't talk about DSLR's.
If you want to void your warranty it is ok for me but when you insist that also other people do the same, shame on you...
If you want to void your warranty it is ok for me but when you insist that also other people do the same, shame on you...
You joined here to ask for an opinion, and you got it... Lots people saying the same thing. If you don't want to believe them, then fine - Return your defective camera.
Alternatively, you could get it cleaned and enjoy using it.
Horoscope Fish
Senior Member
IF the dirt on your sensor is being caused by a faulty shutter, then yes, your shutter is faulty. You have dirt on your sensor. You, nor your "someone who knows something about repairing DSLR
Secondly, I never insisted anyone do anything; I pointed out what your options are for cleaning or having your sensor cleaned for you and explained many of us clean our camera sensors routinely.
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Since everyone has different lens changing abilities, it's impossible to say any number of spots is an indication of a problem in the camera. 500 spots in 6000 clicks is meaningless unless you factor in the photographers lens changing skills. Some of us are meticulous while others not so much. Some of us clean our caps and NEVER put them in our pockets while others don't. Some of us hold our cameras face down while changing lenses while others don't. So until I hear stories of an abundance of spots without a single lens change, like we did in the earlier days of the D600, I'll stick with my belief that this whole oil sensor spot issue was a "one-off" and not something Nikon is likely to repeat anytime soon.
BackdoorArts
Senior Member
Apparently you haven't had my commute. I've had years where I changed the oil once a month - after 4000-5000 miles.
I smell troll.