AC016
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Excellent point Pete!! Just think if he would have pointed a Nikon at the Hydro people instead of a gun, he could have avoided the SWAT team knocking on his door, lol
Another myth to debunk about Canada
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Excellent point Pete!! Just think if he would have pointed a Nikon at the Hydro people instead of a gun, he could have avoided the SWAT team knocking on his door, lol
I carry mine, legally. Wouldn't be much help in a glove box.
Understand there is no offense, but the same way many Americans perceive Canada without gun rights is the same way Americans are perceived with their guns. It is very few relative to the population that carry. However, I do wish everyone was carrying according to perception. If everyone is armed people would all be much more polite.
Again, no offense was taken. Gave me a chuckle.
AC016
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What do you carry, if you don't mind me asking?
I don't think there is anything wrong with guns or in owning them, no matter how many a person has, rather your talking about Canada ( the country where my mother was born and raised or the US where I was born and raised). It is the person who did the crime who is bad, or mentally ill.
Guns have a long history of being used for hunting,target shooting and in defence of self, family, and country. Those who use them to commit crimes are to blame, and it shouldn't reflect on guns that can't operate themselves, or by association those who own and enjoy them responsibly.
This is just my person opinion.
Guns have a long history of being used for hunting,target shooting and in defence of self, family, and country. Those who use them to commit crimes are to blame, and it shouldn't reflect on guns that can't operate themselves, or by association those who own and enjoy them responsibly.
This is just my person opinion.
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I find nothing offensive about the original post and as long as every one keeps it civil and does not point fingers at anyone else in this forum I for one won't pull it.
I visited Quebec many years ago and stayed for a very long visit. I found the people there to be the nicest group of people you could ever be around. Even though I spoke no French and some of the ones I dealt with spoke no English a had several go out of their way to help me along. One person actually got on the bus with me to make sure I got to where I needed to go. The city was clean and neat. No litter on the roads or parks. Granted this was 35 years ago but that is the wonderful impression I was left with of Canada.
Now to the guns part. No, I don't find it surprising that someone there has guns. I would bet up in the far north of Canada no one would leave home without a gun for protection form the wildlife both human and animal. The fact that someone would have 180+ guns in there home would cause to ask some questions though. I have one friend that when you go in one secure man cave room in his house the entire room is lined with rifles standing vertical and the area below them is all pistols. there has to be over 300 guns in that room. IT is a collection of some of the nicest guns I have ever seen. But that is what it is. A collection. The OP posted article does not sound like a collector but more like someone looking for trouble. Does the fact that he lives in Canada surprise me. Yes a little but there are crazies everywhere.
Now, lets place nice here and we can have an interesting off topic discussion about Canadians, The USA and the gun culture everywhere.
I visited Quebec many years ago and stayed for a very long visit. I found the people there to be the nicest group of people you could ever be around. Even though I spoke no French and some of the ones I dealt with spoke no English a had several go out of their way to help me along. One person actually got on the bus with me to make sure I got to where I needed to go. The city was clean and neat. No litter on the roads or parks. Granted this was 35 years ago but that is the wonderful impression I was left with of Canada.
Now to the guns part. No, I don't find it surprising that someone there has guns. I would bet up in the far north of Canada no one would leave home without a gun for protection form the wildlife both human and animal. The fact that someone would have 180+ guns in there home would cause to ask some questions though. I have one friend that when you go in one secure man cave room in his house the entire room is lined with rifles standing vertical and the area below them is all pistols. there has to be over 300 guns in that room. IT is a collection of some of the nicest guns I have ever seen. But that is what it is. A collection. The OP posted article does not sound like a collector but more like someone looking for trouble. Does the fact that he lives in Canada surprise me. Yes a little but there are crazies everywhere.
Now, lets place nice here and we can have an interesting off topic discussion about Canadians, The USA and the gun culture everywhere.
AC016
Senior Member
Yeah, I think our perceptions are skewed by what we read/see in the media. They never miss an opportunity to sensationalize things; therefore, making things seems much worse then they are. If you travel around enough, the "openness" of firearms in the USA is nothing compared to other countries.
My regular carry piece is a Kel Tec P-3AT .380. Fits in the watch pocket of my Levis. In gun vernacular it's termed a "belly gun", most effective within 7 yards (6M).
Nathan Lanni
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@ AC016
Maybe cuz your Canadian and I'm not, you may be better in tune with the news media in Canada, but I think you may be a little sensitive on the issue.
If anyone has to worry about debunking the gun culture myths it's the US, not Canada. Just about every country around the world is voicing it opinion about what the US should be doing about it.
Like I said, I don't have Canadian sensitivities but think any concern about Canada in this regard are well below the radar because of the press the US is getting. The story itself seemed to be pretty clean and I didn't perceive any bias.
Just my 2 cents FWIW
Maybe cuz your Canadian and I'm not, you may be better in tune with the news media in Canada, but I think you may be a little sensitive on the issue.
If anyone has to worry about debunking the gun culture myths it's the US, not Canada. Just about every country around the world is voicing it opinion about what the US should be doing about it.
Like I said, I don't have Canadian sensitivities but think any concern about Canada in this regard are well below the radar because of the press the US is getting. The story itself seemed to be pretty clean and I didn't perceive any bias.
Just my 2 cents FWIW
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Times change and so do cultures,as we say "when i where a lad" there was a murder in Grimsby it made the national papers,now they sometimes go unreported in any paper how things change,if our laws where different i would own a gun and if allowed i would carry it,that is how much things have changed in the UK just in my lifetime.
As i posted somewhere else my stepson had his jaw broken in two places last weekend, he had to go to hull to have the operation, they had done four from Grimsby in that one weekend.
As i posted somewhere else my stepson had his jaw broken in two places last weekend, he had to go to hull to have the operation, they had done four from Grimsby in that one weekend.
That is my point. Look in your mirror…
It was funny when I first moved to Utah, it seemed by the news this state was far more dangerous than my home turf of Detroit. Reason being is that violence and guns were so normal in the Detroit area that it wasn't news. Here though it is pretty uncommon so all of it seemed to make the news making Utah, to the outside observer, seem rather violent at times.
AC016
Senior Member
Yes, you are right. However, I think other countries should keep their noses out of other peoples internal business. If the USA needs to change something, it will be US citizens who will make that change. The media, on the most part, never helps. I used to watch news from Detroit many moons ago. Well, watching what was reported, I never wanted to go to Detroit, let alone Michigan. From what I got from the news, I got the impression that it was a war zone. I have since been to Michigan and I am still alive. The media just sensationalizes things.
Blade Canyon
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I'm the same way, having visited Alberta a few times, New Brunswick, and Halifax, Nova Scotia. Great places, nice people.
Then again, I sometimes work with Canadians who want to stay in the U.S. Their reasons are always the same two things: the weather and taxes.
Where's that BS flag smiley {looking for it now} no one survives and makes it out alive - the media tells me so.
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AC016
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I see you point, but I am only passing on a news story that anyone can read online. I am not sure how my posting this story can make anyone perceive that Canada is a dangerous place or that I am some how sensationalizing the story to do so. I have spoken to many, many, many people from all over the world in my lifetime. Anytime the subject of guns comes up, people always say, "well, you are not like those Americans who stockpile weapons in their bunkers!" <not in those exact words, but you get the jist>. I just shake my head and tell them that there are plenty of guns in Canada and they seem surprised. Therefore, my original post was for those people who think that Canada has no sort of "gun culture" at all.
AC016
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I want a t-shirt that says, "I survived Michigan", lol
So you don't see my point… look again!
Thats funny Moab.
You have to take what the media says about guns and other hot topic items with a grain of salt. Its up to you to do your due diligence to find out if they reported facts or opinions.
As far as Americans and their guns, its a very small percentage that stockpile and an even smaller percentage that has a bunker. You can blame this myth on the preppers tv shows. We dont all carry them in the glove box.
I have left a many of forums because of topics like this. Perceptions and opinions are detrimental to society.
Try turning off the one sided news station or not visit their site and you will see the world is not coming to an end.
And Kodiak, I am sure you have a point to prove here, but like others I am scratching my head and wish you would just say what bugged you about his post.
You have to take what the media says about guns and other hot topic items with a grain of salt. Its up to you to do your due diligence to find out if they reported facts or opinions.
As far as Americans and their guns, its a very small percentage that stockpile and an even smaller percentage that has a bunker. You can blame this myth on the preppers tv shows. We dont all carry them in the glove box.
I have left a many of forums because of topics like this. Perceptions and opinions are detrimental to society.
Try turning off the one sided news station or not visit their site and you will see the world is not coming to an end.
And Kodiak, I am sure you have a point to prove here, but like others I am scratching my head and wish you would just say what bugged you about his post.
Any chance of you spelling out what you find wrong with a news article posted in an off-topic forum?