Adobe Creative Suite Apps Now Subscription Only
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If you use the whole suite of Adobe products this is going to be a really good thing for you. If you only use one or two of their products and want the latest and greatest you are going to be pissed.
If you are a black hat hacker this is going to be an identity theft bonanza.
Personally I think there is a great alternative to PS - GIMP.
If you are a black hat hacker this is going to be an identity theft bonanza.
Personally I think there is a great alternative to PS - GIMP.
WhiteLight
Senior Member
If Adobe is doing this just to stop piracy of their software, it just won't work.
There isn't a program that can not be cracked & CS6 or CS7 or any other program won't be different.
If they really are so intent on this, they would need to start selling machines specifically for using Adobe products, much like how Sony did with the PS3.
That too, was hacked early on & most users were able to hack their systems and stay away from updating to a new firmware which disabled playing discless games.
Apart from that, the pirated users form a very large base, much larger than the folks who actually buy the software.
So there is a LOT of input collated based solely on the feedback of users - pirated or not.
Am quite certain Adobe knows piracy exists & if they really wanted to stop, they would have gone out of their way to get that done.
Piracy to SW companies is a necessary evil.. They may have other ideas in mind while implementing this...
Maybe Adobe will buy Google (or Google will buy Adobe) and shut everyone else down & then go cloudy..
None of this will happen in my near future..IMHO
There isn't a program that can not be cracked & CS6 or CS7 or any other program won't be different.
If they really are so intent on this, they would need to start selling machines specifically for using Adobe products, much like how Sony did with the PS3.
That too, was hacked early on & most users were able to hack their systems and stay away from updating to a new firmware which disabled playing discless games.
Apart from that, the pirated users form a very large base, much larger than the folks who actually buy the software.
So there is a LOT of input collated based solely on the feedback of users - pirated or not.
Am quite certain Adobe knows piracy exists & if they really wanted to stop, they would have gone out of their way to get that done.
Piracy to SW companies is a necessary evil.. They may have other ideas in mind while implementing this...
Maybe Adobe will buy Google (or Google will buy Adobe) and shut everyone else down & then go cloudy..
None of this will happen in my near future..IMHO
I am hearing reports that Adobe's old CEO is moving on to Apple to replace Jobs and that this is probably his idea...
Correction not CEO..
Kevin Lynch
Correction not CEO..
Kevin Lynch
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Signed. Not that I think a Change.Org petition is worth anything, if enough people sign the document it might get the attention of Adobe and there's an ever so slight chance they'll re-think this decision.
ABN Panzer
Senior Member
Agreed. I would think that there'd be a patch within the 1st month of the program comming out allowing it to be copied and run without server connection/validation.
Too many programs out there already that require an internet validation before use/play that have been bypassed or negated (Steam) that I cant believe their intent is to stop piracy.
To make more money... seems more likely to me.
I'm in two minds on this one. I currently pay for the cloud service and have access to all the products. Surprisingly I have found myself using several other high cost apps like Dreamweaver, premiere and acrobat pro. For me it comes down to price. I currently have an education licence which I feel is the right price for a home user. I would pay that long term for that range of products with all updates. If I was earning from the product the higher price would seem fair also.
They also offer a single app version which is about $20 I think. If I couldn't get the education option I would probably buy lightroom and rent CSx.
I also have it on mine and my wife's PC and as we rarely use it at the same time we are probably complying with that licence as well.
Having said all of the above, it would do Adobe some good if they lost some market share in the same way as it would bring Apple back to reality.
They also offer a single app version which is about $20 I think. If I couldn't get the education option I would probably buy lightroom and rent CSx.
I also have it on mine and my wife's PC and as we rarely use it at the same time we are probably complying with that licence as well.
Having said all of the above, it would do Adobe some good if they lost some market share in the same way as it would bring Apple back to reality.
The next generation of graphics designers will not be using PS I guarantee you that...20 bucks a month is to much for a college student to swallow. Corel and others better make their move right now that way they can take away the gusto from the greedy Adobe people and they will make some moves I bet.
I have heard it described as Adobe's "New Coke" moment...I think so.
A lot of people are trying to go to the cloud model (think of all the ramifications of that with these great Chinese hackers and all) Remember way back when you'd buy a new computer and it would come with a hard copy of Windows? Then they changed to preloaded machines. Now so many people have tablets and stuff like that without drives so I think in the near future we are going to see laptops that do not have drives either. Everything will be cloud based.
I have heard it described as Adobe's "New Coke" moment...I think so.
A lot of people are trying to go to the cloud model (think of all the ramifications of that with these great Chinese hackers and all) Remember way back when you'd buy a new computer and it would come with a hard copy of Windows? Then they changed to preloaded machines. Now so many people have tablets and stuff like that without drives so I think in the near future we are going to see laptops that do not have drives either. Everything will be cloud based.
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This is going to blow up in Adobe's face. In the same way as BoA's attempt to charge for ATM's, the backlash will cause them to reverse this bad idea.... I hope!
Do you realize that the apps in the Adobe Creative Cloud aren't actually in the Cloud? There are some settings you can store and sync via the cloud and the option to use cloud storage but the Adobe apps are still downloaded to the hard drive and installed. The apps query the Adobe servers on occasion to check your registration but you aren't running apps from the cloud. The Cloud name is a misnomer in this respect; it's a subscription model.
And when you stop paying for the subscription you can no longer open any of your created documents with the Adobe apps. You will be forced to look for third party apps and hope they support all the data. How do you feel about that?
Don Kuykendall_RIP
RIP :(
You are right on with the everything on the cloud movement.
You know Communism sounds good on paper but we all know how that ended up. I think that having everything on the cloud including our software is only one big solar flare/worm/hacker away from disaster.
Horoscope Fish
Senior Member
*Reads Addobe Response Article*
What a complete and total f--king over this is from Adobe.
Pardon the French.
What a complete and total f--king over this is from Adobe.
Pardon the French.
If Adobe actually goes thru with this, then Pixelmator @$15 and GIMP at $0 will suddenly be very very popular.
Here's an article that compares Pixelmator and "claims" it's a reasonable substitute for PS.
Pixelmator 2.2 is a legitimate Photoshop replacement that costs $15 | ZDNet
Here's an article that compares Pixelmator and "claims" it's a reasonable substitute for PS.
Pixelmator 2.2 is a legitimate Photoshop replacement that costs $15 | ZDNet
Don Kuykendall_RIP
RIP :(
[h=1]Pixelmator is just for Mac though. May try Gimp again.[/h]
Microsoft is doing something similar with the latest version of MS Office, but you do have the option of buying a copy (via download only). The difference is the price. The subscription version is cheaper per year than the copy your can buy. At least MS gives users a choice. Me, I use LibreOffice on all my computers and I don't feel held hostage by Microsoft.
I am one of those people who will not store files in the cloud for numerous reasons, including potential for hackers, will the cloud company still be around, I don't want to pay someone else to store my data, subscribe to their software, or hold all my e-mails. External hard drives are cheap and I have total control. I look at all these "cloud models" as just another way to suck money from people who have been sold a bill of goods that the cloud is the way to go. I cringe every time I see the Carbonite commercial on TV. How hard is it to plug in an external drive & click on your computer's backup software.
Okay, off my soapbox.