Flower shops taking a pic from this site...

[jdeg]

I took note that one of our gallery pages has been getting some traffic from Google image search. This one specifically: Single Red Rose - Nikonites Gallery

It's a very good picture of a Rose from member John!

I then did an image search on that image and was shocked at what I found. Online flower shops (and a couple personal sites) taking the image without credit. John, please correct me if I'm wrong and you did in-fact sell the image, but I didn't see a watermark on the uploaded copy, so I assume they took it without asking.


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I would send those flower shops a bill John!

 

[Don Kuykendall_RIP]

It is a really nice rose and very recognizable. Easy to prove ownership.

 

[Dave_W]

That's f'ed up!! Here's a very timely article about 2 other photographers fighting for their intellectual property rights. I hope John sees this post.

Photog Gets Into Nasty Tussle With Radio Station Over Copyright Infringement

And thanks Jdeg for keeping an eye out for this type of activity.

 

[pistnbroke]

if you posted it on a site where it can be robbed with a right click then who is the fool....should have used Zenfolio....

 

[Don Kuykendall_RIP]

That's f'ed up!! Here's a very timely article about 2 other photographers fighting for their intellectual property rights. I hope John sees this post.

Photog Gets Into Nasty Tussle With Radio Station Over Copyright Infringement

And thanks Jdeg for keeping an eye out for this type of activity.

Interesting article.

 

[carguy]

Reminds me of an experience I had a few years back. I ran an online truck accessory retail web site. I took pictures of my products, hosted them on my web server and displayed them on my site.

Webmasters for two other sites in different parts of the country used my images. Trouble is, they were too lazy to right click and save them to host on their own servers. They just linked via URL to my own images.

I fixed it by copying my images to new file names, updated my site. Then I replaced the 'stolen' images with some graphic porn images and they instantly displayed on their web sites

I'm sure they had some 'splanin to do for a while why porn was showing up on their web sites LOL

 

[Dave_W]

if you posted it on a site where it can be robbed with a right click then who is the fool....should have used Zenfolio....

Zenfolio and all the other services can easily be hacked, so don't fool yourself. Nothing on the internet is safe from criminals. But to address the notion that it's the photographers fault, I don't think it's incumbent upon owners of intellectual property to take extraordinary precautions, the fact that stealing is illegal and you can be sued in court should be more than enough disincentive.

 

[carguy]

Do our gallery images show up in google image searches? Maybe that is how the found it searching for rose pictures?

 

[Scott Murray]

Do our gallery images show up in google image searches? Maybe that is how the found it searching for rose pictures?

Just did a quick search in google and found that rose from the gallery, so yes they do!

 

[Scott Murray]

Type in Nikonites and all of them come up.

 

[carguy]

That's f'ed up!! Here's a very timely article about 2 other photographers fighting for their intellectual property rights. I hope John sees this post.

Photog Gets Into Nasty Tussle With Radio Station Over Copyright Infringement

And thanks Jdeg for keeping an eye out for this type of activity.

Interesting reading.

 

[Don Kuykendall_RIP]

Reminds me of an experience I had a few years back. I ran an online truck accessory retail web site. I took pictures of my products, hosted them on my web server and displayed them on my site.

Webmasters for two other sites in different parts of the country used my images. Trouble is, they were too lazy to right click and save them to host on their own servers. They just linked via URL to my own images.

I fixed it by copying my images to new file names, updated my site. Then I replaced the 'stolen' images with some graphic porn images and they instantly displayed on their web sites

I'm sure they had some 'splanin to do for a while why porn was showing up on their web sites LOL

I love that. Might be great to replace the stolen pictures with This web site steals go to www.yoursiteurl here.com and buy the best.

 

[jdeg]

If anything - send a DMCA notice to their server hose demanding the images be removed (trust me, it works) and report to Google so they de-index the pages: Removing Content From Google - Google Help

 

[John!]

Oh My!!..... Hmmm, not really surprised. However not impressed. I didn't think I had uploaded photos that large, Obviously I'm mistaken. I guess I should make sure I only upload smaller photos.
Now I'm thinking carefully about how I'm going to proceed.

This bites somewhat

 

[John!]

I then did an image search on that image and was shocked at what I found. Online flower shops (and a couple personal sites) taking the image without credit...

Hey jdeg how do you search based on an image when the file names are different?

 

[carguy]

Hey jdeg how do you search based on an image when the file names are different?

If you google search Singe red rose it is the first hit.

 

[John!]

If you google search Singe red rose it is the first hit.

Ya I did that, that is the link to the nikonites gallery. My question is, how do you find them on other sites with other file names?

 

[jdeg]

There's a little pic icon in the images search to insert an image from your computer or url.

sent from my phone

 

[STM]

This is the risk we take posting stuff on the web. Why pay $100 to a stock photo site when you can just steal it from someone for free? I mean, the internet is HUGE, who is going to know, right? The only way to stop it is to make the image 250 pixels long, 72 dpi and put a huge watermark on it so the time it will take to clone it out is not worth it.

I shot a slide of Nancy Wilson (of Heart fame) back in October, 1970 at a concert at UNC while I was a student there. I had posted it to my personal photography website maybe 10 years or so ago. I was doing a internet search about 5 or 6 years ago and lo and behold there it was! No credit, nothing, just my photo of Nancy. I contacted the webmaster that instant and told him that that was my image and the only place he could have stolen it from was MY WEBSITE and I had the slide to prove it was mine and unless he took it down immediately he would hear from an attorney (who was my next door neighbor). He responded about 8 hours later and when I told him I was DEAD SERIOUS about internet theft and that I would pursue legal action and he finally begrudgingly took it down.

This is the image that knukka-hed stole, I put copyright info on these ones, though anyone with even meager PS skills could easily clone it out in image in a matter of seconds:

And here is another one from the same show. Nancy (and Ann too) both were a 10's on a scale of 1 to 2 back then.

If he had just asked me I would have more than been happy to let him use it, as long as I could send him a copy which had my copyright information on it in a watermark. But no, he had to be a cyber-thief and steal it.

 

[Don Kuykendall_RIP]

This is the risk we take posting stuff on the web. Why pay $100 to a stock photo site when you can just steal it from someone for free? I mean, the internet is HUGE, who is going to know, right? The only way to stop it is to make the image 250 pixels long and put a huge watermark on it so the time it will take to clone it out is not worth it.

I shot a slide of Nancy Wilson (of Heart fame) back in the 1970's at a concert at UNC. I had posted it to my personal photography website maybe 10 years ago. I was doing a internet search about 5 or 6 years ago and lo and behold there it was! No credit, nothing, just my photo of Nancy. I contacted the webmaster that instant and told him that that was my image and I had the slide to prove it and unless he took it down he would hear from an attorney (who was my next door neighbor). He responded about 8 hours later and I told I was DEAD SERIOUS about internet theft and I would pursue legal action and he finally begrudgingly took it down.

Be sure to update us on how the rose situation turns out.