D610 vs D7100

DayTrippin

DayTrippin

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This question is for people who have both.
I primarily do landscape shots. Will I lose a noticeable lot if I switch to the d7100?
I usually don't go much over ISO 800. Normal range is 100-400 and the biggest I print is 13x19



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WayneF

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Re: 610 vs 7100

Mark F said:
This question is for people who have both.
I primarily do landscape shots. Will I lose a noticeable lot if I switch to the d7100?
I usually don't go much over ISO 800. Normal range is 100-400 and the biggest I print is 13x19
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I doubt ISO will be much issue, but unless you buy wider lenses, you will lose wide angle.
With the same lens, the FX view is half again wider than DX.

A 16mm mm on FX sees 16mm wide. A 16mm on DX sees what FX sees with a 24mm lens.

If any question about that, FX - DX Lens Crop Factor
 
DayTrippin

DayTrippin

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Re: 610 vs 7100

WayneF said:
I doubt ISO will be much issue, but unless you buy wider lenses, you will lose wide angle.
With the same lens, the FX view is half again wider than DX.

A 16mm mm on FX sees 16mm wide. A 16mm on DX sees what FX sees with a 24mm lens.

If any question about that, FX - DX Lens Crop Factor
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I understand crop factor. I was wanting more comparison between the two on resolution and so forth from people who have both and use both for landscaping at ISO 100-400.
Subject in the forums don't really delve into that type of comparison.



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WayneF

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Re: 610 vs 7100

I've never questioned the resolution. If both are 24 megapixels, the resolution would seem the same. The DX does have to be enlarged more.
 
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Geoffc

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Re: 610 vs 7100

WayneF said:
I've never questioned the resolution. If both are 24 megapixels, the resolution would seem the same. The DX does have to be enlarged more.
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Wayne, enlarged more why? The output file from both have about the same number of pixels, dimensions and therefore the same size.


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WayneF

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Because the DX sensor is smaller. The image projected from the lens is smaller on that DX sensor. (if the same lens, the image is the same of course, but that cropped view is not. I'm instead speaking of the same the field of view, made to be the same image view.)

The number of pixels could be the same number (like 24 megapixels), and if thought of that way, then printed at X dpi would seem the same thing. But that is only about pixels, and NOT about the image they represent.

But the printed image is in fact a reproduction of the original lens image, and DX is simply smaller. If printed same size, the DX is enlarged more (FX could be allowed to be more blurred, so to speak - if not enlarged as much). This is why CoC used in DOF formulas is 1.5x larger for FX than DX. The larger FX is not enlarged as much. And it is why DX is better than compact cameras.

It's the same reason large film was used, like medium film for weddings, or sheet film for commercial work. It does not have to be enlarged as much. Analog, but considered a strong and obvious plus.
 
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gqtuazon

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Re: 610 vs 7100

Mark F said:
This question is for people who have both.
I primarily do landscape shots. Will I lose a noticeable lot if I switch to the d7100?
I usually don't go much over ISO 800. Normal range is 100-400 and the biggest I print
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Field of view will be different but you can always compensate that with landscape photography if you have the room to adjust your position.

It would not be as wide compared to the FX.


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DayTrippin

DayTrippin

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I'm not talking about pixels. They may have the same, but the fx pixels are going to be bigger on the sensor allowing for more light, better focusing in lower light, and lower noise at higher ISO.
What I am asking... Landscape photos at 100-400 ISO printed at 13x19. Fx taken at say 24mm and dx taken at 18mm. Can you tell the difference in pictures between these cameras and if so, how pronounced is the difference.

Reason I am asking is that a pro wedding photographer wants my d610 and he is wanting to trade his d7100 with 1100 shutter actuations plus 900.00 which would allow me to purchase a better dx lens or buy my d3300 lightweight kit and the 18-140 lens
Sounds like a good deal to me if I don't lose to much in picture quality for landscaping


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PapaST

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Re: 610 vs 7100

I'm not quite the person you want to ask because I don't do many landscapes and I don't have a d610 (I have the d600). But from what I can discern, you will not notice a significant difference between ISO 100-400. From what you mentioned (800 being your usual max), that for me is somewhat of a ceiling ISO when I use my d7100. Sure it can shoot well above that in the right conditions but as a whole for me I try to stay below that whenever I can.

Personally, if landscape was my passion then I would stick with a full frame regardless if the DX counterpart could perform as well an FX.
 
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WayneF

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Just curious, if you already have the D610, what is the reason to switch to D7100?

Seems to me the only advantage of the crop would be the perceived enhanced telephoto. Of course, cropping the D610 image would give the same effect, but the D610 is only 10 megapixels at DX. But it is 24 mp and half again wider if as FX.
 
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singlerosa_RIP

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Sometimes, it boils down to the glass. Nikon's best landscape lens (IMO) is the 14-24 2.8. Use it on FX and it's 14mm on the wide side. Use it on DX, and it's 21mm. You might use DX lenses like Nikon's 10-24 or Tokina's 11-16, but they're no match for the 14-24 (I've owned the Tokina). In addition to the lens, I think the FX body will yield better results for landscapes. If you were talking sports or birding, might be a different story.
 
DayTrippin

DayTrippin

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Re: 610 vs 7100

WayneF said:
Just curious, if you already have the D610, what is the reason to switch to D7100?

Seems to me the only advantage of the crop would be the perceived enhanced telephoto. Of course, cropping the D610 image would give the same effect, but the D610 is only 10 megapixels at DX. But it is 24 mp and half again wider if as FX.
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It's about lenses and nothing about the body. Not many good affordable lenses out there for landscape in the fx land. There are better options for dx.
I like my d610, but if there isn't that much noticeable differences for the type of shooting I do, I'd rather spend a little less and get better quality for the buck in the lenses I would buy.



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gqtuazon

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Re: 610 vs 7100

Mark F said:
It's about lenses and nothing about the body. Not many good affordable lenses out there for landscape in the fx land. There are better options for dx.
I like my d610, but if there isn't that much noticeable differences for the type of shooting I do, I'd rather spend a little less and get better quality for the buck in the lenses I would buy.
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Your needs and desires are different. You know what is best for you.

If it was me, I would keep the D610. It is easier to buy a used D7100.
 
Browncoat

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Re: 610 vs 7100

Mark F said:
Reason I am asking is that a pro wedding photographer wants my d610 and he is wanting to trade his d7100 with 1100 shutter actuations plus 900.00...
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Prices new, body only
D7100 - $1,100
D610 - $1,900​

That's an $800 difference, so logic dictates that you take the money and run. Frankly, if you're asking this question, then you probably aren't getting the most out of your D610 anyway. You've already justified this in your own mind and are just looking for confirmation that you're not crazy:

Mark F said:
...if there isn't that much noticeable differences for the type of shooting I do, I'd rather spend a little less and get better quality for the buck in the lenses I would buy.
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Personally, I wouldn't do it, nor would I advise a friend to make this trade. You may be happy with a D7100, but more than likely this is a case of you don't know what you've got until it's gone.
 
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WayneF

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Re: 610 vs 7100

FX is an expensive way to go, especially the lenses it will need. But those f/2.8 lenses are absolutely awesome.
 
DayTrippin

DayTrippin

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Re: 610 vs 7100

Browncoat said:
Prices new, body only
D7100 - $1,100
D610 - $1,900​

That's an $800 difference, so logic dictates that you take the money and run. Frankly, if you're asking this question, then you probably aren't getting the most out of your D610 anyway. You've already justified this in your own mind and are just looking for confirmation that you're not crazy:


Personally, I wouldn't do it, nor would I advise a friend to make this trade. You may be happy with a D7100, but more than likely this is a case of you don't know what you've got until it's gone.
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Never said I was taking the deal. I was just asking a question. And I know what I have, and I know how to use it. But I also knew how to use my d300s when I had it. My question remains... What is the difference between picture quality at ISO 100-400 printed at 13x19.



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Krs_2007

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Re: 610 vs 7100

I think the best way to answer that would be take two shots, one with each camera and then do a compare for yourself. I had a 7000 and own a 600, so for me it's the 600 all the way. But with that said I will be looking for a used 7100 soon for a backup. I don't shoot landscape and I understand the price differences between the lenses, the decision will be yours and what's best for you.

If you do the test then I as well as others on here would be curious of the results.
 
Browncoat

Browncoat

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Re: 610 vs 7100

Mark F said:
And I know what I have, and I know how to use it.
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Why did you buy it in the first place? What was it about that camera that made you pull the trigger? You could've chosen the D7100 instead, but decided to go full frame. There isn't a big difference between these two models: high end DX vs low end FX. There's not going to be a major difference in image quality at ______ ISO at _____x_____ size.

Each camera has its pros and cons. In any shootout/head to head/vs comparison you'll find on the web, the D610 is usually going to come out on top because it's a statistically better camera if you play by the numbers. In all practical terms, this trade would be a downgrade for you unless you're not taking full advantage of what the D610 has to offer for what you're shooting.
 
DayTrippin

DayTrippin

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I bought the d600 for the image quality that this camera can produce. It was eventually replaced with the d610 by nikon.
Paired up with the right lenses, this camera is excellent.
But... The d610 with a subpar lens compared to a d7100 with a superb lens that cost about the same as the mediocre fx lens actually creates a better image. That's what I have seen anyway, thus me asking the questions. I don't have a big trust fund or make that kind of money to buy the nikon kings. When I purchased full frame in the first place, I thought kit lens at f8-f11 would be as good as the 24-70 at f8. I was shown wrong. But put that 24-85 on a d7100 and it's in the same ballpark. Again, that's what I have been shown. I haven't done the test myself due to a lack of camera shop in my area and lack of having both cameras in hand. If I had that, I would more than likely keep both.
I didn't expect this to be that complicated or complex question to tell you the truth. I thought someone who has both cameras could describe and maybe show the differences between cameras using same settings and same kit lens


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