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  1. #11
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    Re: Topaz DeNoise AI test

    @Needa Here are some comparisons at lower ISO. In all these pairs the first photo is straight out of camera, the second photo is with DeNoise applied but no other edits. The same goes for the cropped pics.

    ISO 1000:


    Topaz DeNoise AI test-iso-1000-f5.6.jpg

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    Topaz DeNoise AI test-iso-1000-f-5.6-denoise-crop-1.jpg

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    Topaz DeNoise AI test-iso-1000-crop-1.jpg

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    Topaz DeNoise AI test-iso-1000-denoise-crop-1.jpg

    ISO 2000:


    Topaz DeNoise AI test-iso-2000-f5.6.jpg

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    Topaz DeNoise AI test-iso-2000-denoise-crop-1.jpg

    ISO 3200:

    Topaz DeNoise AI test-iso-3200-f5.6.jpg

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    Topaz DeNoise AI test-iso-3200-f5.6-edit.jpg

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    Topaz DeNoise AI test-iso-3200-f-5.6-crop-1.jpg

    Topaz DeNoise AI test-iso-3200-f-5.6-denoise-crop-1.jpg

    You can see the difference quite noticably in the cropped versions, which I think will help in with BIF pictures since my longest lens is only 300mm and the raptors here tend to soar pretty high up and I always end up having to crop heavily.

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  2. #12
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    Re: Topaz DeNoise AI test

    Quote Originally Posted by hark View Post
    But perhaps it will (eventually) pique your interest to delve into Photoshop.
    The interest it there. The intelligence isn't. *sigh*....
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  3. #13
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    Re: Topaz DeNoise AI test

    Topaz DeNoise AI test
    I went back and did a quick edit - this time using ONLY an adjustment brush in Camera RAW to remove background noise. I did have to go over the background multiple times to reduce the noise. Nothing was done over the cat's face. Camera RAW has the exact same tools as Lightroom so this is something you can do in LR.

    Topaz DeNoise AI test-denoise-test-dell-ooc-1-cr-noise-reduction.jpg
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  4. #14
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    Re: Topaz DeNoise AI test

    Quote Originally Posted by Dangerspouse View Post
    @Needa Here are some comparisons at lower ISO. In all these pairs the first photo is straight out of camera, the second photo is with DeNoise applied but no other edits. The same goes for the cropped pics.
    Results a lower ISO is much better.
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  5. #15
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    Re: Topaz DeNoise AI test

    I've posted this elsewhere talking about Denoise AI (which I utterly love) - always run Denoise first before making any light adjustments, especially on darker images. If you lighten darken images that already have noise you're only amplifying that noise, which makes Denoise's job harder. I've had more than a few occasions where I...

    1. Run Denoise with minimal sharpening, and only enough noise reduction to give me something cleaner to work with and which doesn't remove details in dark areas.
    2. Perform a basic exposure adjustment.
    3. Run Denoise again to remove any residual noise from 2 and do the required sharpening.

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  6. #16
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    Re: Topaz DeNoise AI test

    Thanks for the advice, Jake!

    FWIW, I also included a 15% off code in my initial post over in the "Deals" folder.
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  7. #17
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    Re: Topaz DeNoise AI test

    Quote Originally Posted by Dangerspouse View Post
    Thanks Cindy! The pic sure looks worlds better than mine. Unfortunately I don't understand the majority of what you said - PCC, Nic Collection Dfine, duplicate layer, mask out, are all unfamiliar to me. But again: great edit!
    For anyone who finds Photoshop to be too daunting, I found the training videos through Adobe's website to be a good starting point. Then when I came to a concept that left me needing more info, Anthony Morganti offers free Photoshop videos. For example, if you need help with layer masks, just search for Anthony's name along with layer masks to find a video.

    Adobe Photoshop Tutorials on their website: https://helpx.adobe.com/photoshop/tutorials.html

    Anthony Morganti: https://iammrphotographer.com/

    Phlearn also offers the videos for Master Photoshop in 30 Days although I thought he went kind of fast. BUT it might be beneficial to watch Day 1 then do an online search for more videos that delve deeper into that concept before moving onto Day 2.

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  8. #18
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    Re: Topaz DeNoise AI test

    Quote Originally Posted by Dangerspouse View Post
    Give the free trial version a try to verify that. It's the full program, just with a watermark. If it works with that freebie, it'll work with the paid version.
    As suggested I downloaded the free trial and must say it is very impressive what can be achieved with this software. My problem is that took over 6 mins to process just one image which is a bit annoying. When I finally upgrade my pc this software will definitely be on my shopping list.
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  9. #19
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    Re: Topaz DeNoise AI test

    Topaz DeNoise AI test
    Matt Kloskowski is a great editing teacher. While I was on Facebook, an ad for his Deep Dive course showed up. When I went to save the ad, it immediately disappeared from my Facebook news feed. Anyway, here is a link to that course if anyone is interested.

    https://mattk.com/deep-dive-topaz/

    Then when searching online, I found this Topaz DeNoise tutorial where he edits a high ISO image. The shot was taken at ISO 25600. And the results are absolutely impressive.

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  10. #20
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    Re: Topaz DeNoise AI test

    Topaz DeNoise AI test
    I have just experimented with DeNoise AI myself for the first time and came on here to see if there was a specific thread I could add my contribution too.

    The difference when I zoom in to 100% is huge and certainly better than I've ever achieved with my basic knowledge of LightRoom. This is my first use of DeNoise on an image taken at 10,000 ISO, which is much higher than I would normally feel comfortable using. I hope the improvments show up after I've uploaded them here. It's been so long since I last posted I forget how to adjust the image size. I may also follow up by showing 100% crop.

    SOOC
    Topaz DeNoise AI test-sooc.jpg

    SOOC + lightrooms default noise reduction and sharpening

    Topaz DeNoise AI test-sooc-auto-lightroom.jpg

    DeNoise only (I forget which setting I used)

    Topaz DeNoise AI test-denoise-only.jpg

    DeNoise plus a few minor tweaks including sharpeningin Lightroom

    Topaz DeNoise AI test-denoise-lightroom-edits.jpg
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