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    Full Moon

    Full Moon
    Tonight is a full moon. I was hoping to get more detail in the moon but still be able to see the clouds. The moon is blown out, but you can see the clouds. I am wondering if there is a way to get more detail and less brightness in the moon while still being able to see the clouds. I was thinking maybe I should have used a Neutral Density filter, but then I probably won't be able to see the clouds. Tips?
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      Re: Full Moon

      Even though the moon is blown out, as you put it......looks pretty good to me. I personally think it looks good the way it is. To my eye, the main subject is the moon, yes, but it's the clouds that grab my attention, thereby putting the moon into a "second place" position...if you know what I mean. My eyes aren't fixated on the moon, they're wandering all over the picture, taking in the effects of the clouds. I like it.
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      Re: Full Moon

      The moon is reflected sunlight and very bright, My first attemps were long exposures, always blown out, yours isn't that bad, I'm like Jack, the clouds are really neat. nice shot.
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      Re: Full Moon

      Like Jack and Bill have said, it's a very nice effect, even though the moon is blown out; the clouds are fantastic and that was your objective. I might have taken several shots at less exposure to try to get a little more detail in the moon. Even if the clouds were a little darker, you could always lighten them up in PP, whereas you can't ever get the detail back in something that's been blown out. And I am also becoming very fond of the density filters!

      Also, if you can get the moon before it get's totally dark, you have a lot more luck getting the detail since it's not as bright.

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      Re: Full Moon

      To get the moon exposed right, start with 1/250s and f8. Use a tripod Play with +- 1-2fstops.
      The moon is a) very bright and b) very fast. You should not go slower than 1/200s.
      Some of my moonshots: Picasa Web Albums - Kai Poitschke - Der Mond

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      Last edited by fotojack; 01-20-2011 at 05:44 PM.

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      Re: Full Moon

      Maybe HDR would work in this situation. This is a very wide tonal range that probably makes it impossible to get a good exposure of both moon and clouds with just one shot. The D90 will do a three shot bracket with as much as a 2 stop range.
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      Re: Full Moon

      Thanks everyone for your comments.
      Kai, I will try this, perhaps tonight. Thanks, and your moon pics are awesome! I can get the detail in the moon when I am just trying for the moon, and I did last night but then I couldn't see the clouds.
      Joseph, I did do HDR on the moon last night, but it brought out some colors that aren't even there, it looked fake, it could be the crappy HDR program I have. Once I buy photomatix I will try again.

      I think I'll use the neutral density filters next time just for the hell of it, and see what happens.
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      Re: Full Moon

      Maybe a HDR would work in this situation.
      Joseph, I tried this. I'm amazed at how fast the moon moves. Motion blur is evident at 3 shots, and deghosting night shots adds a lot of noise. Of course, maybe I haven't practiced this enough. But I agree, it seems that hdr would be perfect.
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      Re: Full Moon

      Kai, your moon shots are spectacular! I especially like the one with the airliner!

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      Re: Full Moon

      Quote Originally Posted by ohkphoto View Post
      Joseph, I tried this. I'm amazed at how fast the moon moves. Motion blur is evident at 3 shots, and deghosting night shots adds a lot of noise. Of course, maybe I haven't practiced this enough. But I agree, it seems that hdr would be perfect.
      Doesn't photomatix allow for auto or manual alignment of your shots?
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