Youngnuo Speedlite YN460-II

Lawrence

Senior Member
Can anyone tell me if this is any good?
I understand it cannot be used with TTL but does that mean I cannot use it at all with my D5100 or put another way what would I need to use it with my D5100?
Thanks guys.
 

Mike D90

Senior Member
Lawrence, you can use almost any flash with your D5100. It is just a matter of the shoe voltage, not really an issue with any newer flash nowadays, and the fact that if it doesn't do TTL then you have to expose manually.

I currently use an older Sunpak PZ40X with my D90, no TTL, and I just set the flash output manually as it is adjustable output on the flash itself.
 

Lawrence

Senior Member
Lawrence, you can use almost any flash with your D5100. It is just a matter of the shoe voltage, not really an issue with any newer flash nowadays, and the fact that if it doesn't do TTL then you have to expose manually.

I currently use an older Sunpak PZ40X with my D90, no TTL, and I just set the flash output manually as it is adjustable output on the flash itself.

Thanks Mike. I might have an opportunity to get one of these at a good price and thought even if I get it for future use.
Also just been reading another post where you contributed and find these things interesting. Delving into my camera right now to see where the menu settings are. The more I learn about my camera's capabilities the more impressed I am.
Thanks for your input once again.
 

Mike D90

Senior Member
Well I am certainly still learning myself on using flash so take my advice lightly and back it up with other opinions. I just know what I have done and what has worked for me and what I used.

TTL fo rme has just been too expensive to get into because of the equipment required. I cannot afford to spend $200 on a single SB-600 and will not even try to spend twice or three times that on an SB-700 or SB-900. That is insanity to me.

So until I can afford the Yongnuo EX565's or better I will do with what I can afford and that means no TTL for me.
 

Mike D90

Senior Member
Also Lawrence, if you can get those better Nikons TTL flash units, they can be commanded from within your camera itself withought using those radio transceiver units. That is, if the D5100 has the Commander mode and I am pretty sure it does. My D90 has it and I am sure the newer models, 5100's/5200's, would have it as well. I personally like the radio poppers better and one day will have the units that will use the TTL function.
 

Lawrence

Senior Member
Also Lawrence, if you can get those better Nikons TTL flash units, they can be commanded from within your camera itself withought using those radio transceiver units. That is, if the D5100 has the Commander mode and I am pretty sure it does. My D90 has it and I am sure the newer models, 5100's/5200's, would have it as well. I personally like the radio poppers better and one day will have the units that will use the TTL function.

I will check that.
But …
I cannot believe it!
I just tried my old Sunpak GX14 on my hot shoe and it works. Holy moly I got some more gear without even knowing!! (thanks to you) :D
 

Mike D90

Senior Member
I will check that.
But …
I cannot believe it!
I just tried my old Sunpak GX14 on my hot shoe and it works. Holy moly I got some more gear without even knowing!! (thanks to you) :D

Do a quick search on that flash and see what the shoe trigger voltage is on that unit. If its real high, like the old Vivitar 283's, it can damage/ruin your camera.

That is why I bought the Yongnuo radio triggers so I can use all of those old 283's off camera, which is where I want them anyway.
 

WhiteLight

Senior Member
You can control the flash from the D5100 in SU4 mode, though the D5100 unfortunately does not have a commander.
You can't also do a continuous shoot cos off camera you'll only get one flash burst, no continuous mode

Though TTL is good in most situations & very helpful too, it may not serve them all.
Manually adjusting the flash is definitely a 'better' way, at least in my opinion
and it's not too tough to learn either
 

Lawrence

Senior Member
Do a quick search on that flash and see what the shoe trigger voltage is on that unit. If its real high, like the old Vivitar 283's, it can damage/ruin your camera.

That is why I bought the Yongnuo radio triggers so I can use all of those old 283's off camera, which is where I want them anyway.

Yes be nice to have it off camera. Might PM you on the set up you use. In the meanwhile it takes 2 AA batteries - does that mean anything to me?
 

Lawrence

Senior Member
Looks like the camera can handle up to 250 volts (according to the manual)
So it should be ok but I will use it only off camera.
Will be in touch Mike if you don't mind (and probably even if you do :D)
 

Mike D90

Senior Member
Yes be nice to have it off camera. Might PM you on the set up you use. In the meanwhile it takes 2 AA batteries - does that mean anything to me?

Using 2 of the AA batteries just means it wont put out as much power as one that uses 4 AA batteries and won't give as many full power discharges till batteries are used up. My Sunpak only uses two AA batteries as well. My Vivitar 283's use 4 AA batteries and have a port for an accessory cord to use wall voltage without using batteries. Those cords are $20.00 each though and I have not yet spent the money on them.
 

Vixen

Senior Member
I recently bought a pair of Yongnou 560III flashes and a couple of triggers. I think they are great. I use them off camera, on the supplied stands, and find them very easy to use (although I did have a bit of a deflating moment when I discovered I could not use them at more than 1/250 or 1/320 as that is the max flash sync the camera will allow).
What I DO find difficult is where to place them in regards to the subject. It's a huge learning curve.

Oh...and make sure you get the upgraded triggers. I bought the wrong ones so can only use them "on camera". That'll teach me to pay more attention when ordering stuff. The 2x flashes and 2xtriggers cost me about AU$210, which is pretty good.
 

Mike D90

Senior Member
I recently bought a pair of Yongnou 560III flashes and a couple of triggers. I think they are great. I use them off camera, on the supplied stands, and find them very easy to use (although I did have a bit of a deflating moment when I discovered I could not use them at more than 1/250 or 1/320 as that is the max flash sync the camera will allow).
What I DO find difficult is where to place them in regards to the subject. It's a huge learning curve.

Oh...and make sure you get the upgraded triggers. I bought the wrong ones so can only use them "on camera". That'll teach me to pay more attention when ordering stuff. The 2x flashes and 2xtriggers cost me about AU$210, which is pretty good.
@Vixen Check this out.

This page has an interactive lighting placement thing. You can click on different positions of lighting (1:00 o'clock, 3:00 o'clock etc) and it gives you the result real time. There are several of these on that page using different types of lighting as well.

http://nikonites.com/portrait/20182...ractive-lighting-placement.html#axzz2wVIzvXPf
 

sonicbuffalo_RIP

Senior Member
Also Lawrence, if you can get those better Nikons TTL flash units, they can be commanded from within your camera itself withought using those radio transceiver units. That is, if the D5100 has the Commander mode and I am pretty sure it does. My D90 has it and I am sure the newer models, 5100's/5200's, would have it as well. I personally like the radio poppers better and one day will have the units that will use the TTL function.

I just sold my D5100 and it does not have the Commander mode.
 

Vixen

Senior Member
@Vixen Check this out.

This page has an interactive lighting placement thing. You can click on different positions of lighting (1:00 o'clock, 3:00 o'clock etc) and it gives you the result real time. There are several of these on that page using different types of lighting as well.

http://nikonites.com/portrait/20182...ractive-lighting-placement.html#axzz2wVIzvXPf

More directed at portraits which I'm not really interested in......but thanks for the linky and for taking the time.
 
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