Thank you @Marilynne -- are they old or recent ones?
Recent. I have problems with yours, nikonpup and Roy's. They take forever to load. I can walk out of the room and come back a few minutes later and they still haven't loaded.
at the Arb, Craig or Yorba?? was at yorba myself but didnt get there to after 11, had a washing machine repair to do (clean the trap, 4 baby socks stuck in it), Yorba was gray, lost the sun before Corona, it was trying to come out as i left after 2pm.