Unreal grain

BackdoorArts

Senior Member
That's not bad for a D7000. "Grain" (let's call it "Noise" - the proper term) amount is generally purely a matter of ISO level and subject color and texture, and making sure you nail the exposure (any brightening will amplify the noise). The larger and more uniform the area, the more visible the noise will be. The more detailed the area the more likely the noise will interfere with sharpness. Contrast Noise is the first to appear as you raise ISO levels (this is what you're seeing in your shots), and Color Noise begins to appear at higher ISO's (this is exhibited as off-color specs within the image).

In-camera high ISO NR (above ISO 800) works fairly well in the D7000 and has continued to improve. If you're shooting RAW the good news is that noise reduction settings in most post processing software can clear up the noise as much or as little as you want, usually at the sacrifice of some level of sharpness and/or texture. It's the first thing you want to take care of in post because everything else will amplify the noise that's there making it tough to deal with.
 

Horoscope Fish

Senior Member
The short answer to your question is... You are not getting excessive noise in your photos based on what you've posted here. What you *are* getting is a totally normal and expected level of noise for the shooting conditions.

What barely perceptible noise is present is easily removed in post processing.

Further, your shots are soft because of your shooting technique; meaning your choice aperture, shutter speed and ISO for the prevailing conditions.

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Dimitar

Senior Member
IGNORE everything I said guys. I am actually impressed by this photo taken at a very low light in Notre Dame Paris, 3 weeks ago at only ( 640 ISO ) what ?? I didn't even know I took this at 640 ISO with exposure bias only +1 up. WOW at what post processing could achieve. What you guys think about the image ? I have to actually say that my problem is not grain but camera shake. I need tips on how to avoid camera shake, I need preferable settings for my d7000

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J-see

Senior Member
I need tips on how to avoid camera shake, I need preferable settings for my d7000

That's easy: a tripod. Or put it on a flat surface. For these shots, I never hold the cam. I need lowest ISO settings and that's impossible handheld because of the light.

For the rest what was the formula? 1 sec/(mm*crop factor)? Or something like that. On average a 100mm on a 1.5 crop would require at least 1/150sec.
 
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Horoscope Fish

Senior Member
... I have to actually say that my problem is not grain but camera shake.
This is what we've been trying to tell you.


I need tips on how to avoid camera shake, I need preferable settings for my d7000...
To avoid camera shake from blurring your images:
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1. Shoot at a shutter speed that is twice the focal length as a minimum. If you're shooting at 100mm keep your shutter speed at 1/200 or faster. Abide by this rule as if your life depended on it.
2. Use "Q"uiet shutter mode if you don't need to be shooting in Continuous. Seriously. This DOES make a difference.
3. Use a tripod or monopod with a remote release or using the camera's built in timer to delay the shot a couple of seconds after your press the shutter release button.
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Dimitar

Senior Member
Alright thank you guys for helping.
Instead of making a new thread, I will just ask here, When you pay for tumblr themes do you just do one payment forever or you gotta do monthly payments ? I'm sick and tired of other websites wanting me to pay monthly. I am ready to pay $19 for a theme but i aint sure if its just that one payment ?
 

DrEntropy

Senior Member
The lower left picture of that cat is quite nice. I am not seeing grain issues. The composition could be improved a bit, consider the rule of thirds.

This may not apply to you, but I found myself doing a lot of pixel peeping when i first started (only a few months ago, so still a noob!) and being hypersensitive to noise. One thing you can do is to find a scene, then take pictures at the same EV but different ISO. Cover everything the camera can do. Then go take a look at them, post process them and learn what ISO does. Pixel peep to your hearts content, but also zoom out to 'normal view' and compare. It helped me quite a bit to get over noise phobia :)
 

Dimitar

Senior Member
The lower left picture of that cat is quite nice. I am not seeing grain issues. The composition could be improved a bit, consider the rule of thirds.

This may not apply to you, but I found myself doing a lot of pixel peeping when i first started (only a few months ago, so still a noob!) and being hypersensitive to noise. One thing you can do is to find a scene, then take pictures at the same EV but different ISO. Cover everything the camera can do. Then go take a look at them, post process them and learn what ISO does. Pixel peep to your hearts content, but also zoom out to 'normal view' and compare. It helped me quite a bit to get over noise phobia :)

LOL, I didn't care about composition at all, since it was a test shot to show the problem. Anyways, its all sorted now.
 

DrEntropy

Senior Member
LOL, I didn't care about composition at all, since it was a test shot to show the problem. Anyways, its all sorted now.
Yeah sorry i missed a whole page of this thread when I replied. Still, it can be illuminating so to speak to experiment.
Cheers!
 
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