To FX or not to FX

Blacktop

Senior Member
Shooting in raw and post processing to get the correct shot is not the way I want to shoot. I try to get the correct shot in camera. I can't help the dust once in a while so I use the blemish removal in PS mobile when I can. If you like to process then that's cool, I don't, if I was forced to I would sell all my gear and just use my phone. As it is now, it goes straight from my camera to social media or printing, If it doesn't look good it gets thrown out. I will not bend on that.

Moving to FX only makes sense to me if the bodies will help me lower the ISO and focus better in low light. If it will I will get the one I can afford, which looks more and more like the 750 as it has the better auto focus. The lenses I own, regardless of FX, pro glass, or not, all work with my bodies. I am just looking to kick it up a notch. The pro glass already helped with contrast, flare, and isolation.

As as far as the DF, somethings may matter to someone and not to others. Whatever gets you out shooting. I personally hated having 2 different chargers, the main reason I sold my 3200. It irks me to the point that one camera sat unused. Now that I have one type of battery, one wall charger, one car charger, I can constantly rotate through the bodies. Its a personal preference. As far as the looks, that's a preference and if it did have the battery I would have bought it already, even at retail. I just mentioned it as a afterthought, if you took offense to my opinions then maybe you're the one with a issue.

Maybe I don't belong in this forum as I see a lot of hate going around. I throw out a question from time to time, sometimes I get real answers to the question I asked but most times it's a question that questions why I'm questioning. It doesn't matter why, what matters is the info I was trying to gleen from the collective. I think I'll go back to doing own research, at least I don't berate myself.

The D610 will get you down to ISO 100, but the D810 will do ISO 64 I believe. Unless you meant that you would like cleaner images at higher ISO's, but what do I know? We're just haters around here.
 

480sparky

Senior Member
Aren't there issues between the 70-200 VRI and FX bodies? I thought that was one reason for releasing the 70-200 VRII.. or I could have misunderstood something I read?


The VRII is merely quicker and more accurate. Plus I think the optics changed a bit too.
 

hrstrat57

Senior Member
Agree with the OP 100% on the common battery thing! A major reason why I love my D300/D700 system is everything swops out including the MB D10! Sound like the OP and I agree onkeeping things simple.

OP I felt the same way as you about JPEG versus raw when I was shooting A mount.... The Minolta glass made everything pop I saw no reason to bother myself with processing.

upon moving to Nikon system I downloaded the free Nikon software (NX D) and was blown away. I do very little tweaking - often only exposure and saturation and the results are killer! The best part is the software emulates the JPEG settings on Nikon cameras= it is so easy to use! I spend zero more time with NX-d than I did with JPEG. It's like shooting JPEG and getting RAW results! You should give it a whirl! I can get a quality capture on IG within minutes of putting the CF in my desktop!

I also think a D610 will make you smile big!

Good luck!
 
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aroy

Senior Member
I think that if you are not utilizing the high DR available in RAW, then you need good light for noise free images. A high MP, low DR body is good enough. The utility of RAW; at least for me; is that I can manipulate exposure to get it just right, open up shadows, when needed and play around with NR, before finalizing the output.

Shooting only in jpeg has its advantages, but then you are wasting a lot of information that is sitting there in the 14 bit RAW. Fine if you are under tight schedule to deliver images immediately, but not worth it if you want to get the most from the image. You will waste more time setting up the camera "just right" than correcting that in post.

In my case I use NX-D and normally adjust the exposures, brighten up the shadows where required and then crop and export to jpeg. Each image takes less than a minute and that is worth it.
 

sonicbuffalo_RIP

Senior Member
I recently acquired 2/3rds of the holy trinity at a price that allows me to think about a new body to keep up with them. The lenses I got are the 24-70 2.8 and the 70-200 2.8 vr1. They instantly produced more contrast, less flare, and better subject isolation (in the case of the 70-200) while allowing better images in low light. I've moved my 18-140 g and 70-300 g to travel/day trip status. While I am satisfied with having 2 gripped 7000s I was wondering if stepping up to a 610 would produce better IQ, allow lower ISOs, and a better overall experience with the pro glass? Will the higher MP count really show any sloppy handling skills? Will it even give me any real world benefits? Should I just save up for a better body? Right now there's a 610 for $1000 on CL and a 800 at a local shop for $1500. At $1500 I could probably snag a 750 at rebate time or even a used d3s a friend in selling. Just some random thoughts running through my mind. I also got a question about the 14-24 but I'll ask in that forum.

I had the Trinity and my favorite lens was the 14-24 mm. I loved that lens. I will say if I was you and from what I've read and seen, I'd go for the D750 when possible. You'll be amazed! Good shooting!
 

Bukitimah

Senior Member
Well, I am not sure about other models. Coming from D300, I would never be able to achieve this result at iso 2,500. I am very happy with the high ISO performance of D610. I have not even made color adjustment but just crop and adjust brightness a little on CS6. This is taken using the AFS 70-300 VR lens. In my opinion, it is not just the photographer behind that camera. That tool also counts. If you are considering if you should upgrade, I would say do it if financially you could.

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Fortkentdad

Senior Member
Been there debated that - to death according to my wife who listened to my back and forth thinking out loud too many times.

In the end I chose a D610 and absolutely no regrets.

A grand for an FX camera - go Nike and just do it. Lots of lenses cost more than that.
 

Bukitimah

Senior Member
While technology has improved and dx sensor are getting better, so does fx sensor. Physic says it all. F4 and F1.4 lens are different right :)
 

Bukitimah

Senior Member
So you are saying SIZE DOES MATTER.

Photogrphy is about lights. If optically it is bring in more lights, how could the dx out perform the fx in the same class? Why would a company spend more money to produce a product that cost more but has inferior output?

It is all about the tools given the same environment.
 
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