Thom Hogan - More Nikon Shooters Leaving The Ranks To Shoot Other Brands
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BackdoorArts
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You've got it half right, absolutely no useful information. As for relevance, Hogan has never been relevant - at least not to me. It's all self-serving babble, and too much of it for me to be bothered to try and glean any of the useful stuff out of it. He's a self-anointed prophet of digital photography and I've already wasted more than enough time thinking about him. He writes and then googles his name to see who's talking about him.
I think you missed my point, slightly (although, yes, one would expect the high ISO performance and image quality to be better on a full frame sensor)... I was just showing that you can support any stance you want to take with articles off of the internet. For the most part, they mean nothing to me.
To be honest, I didn't even look at the pertinent info on that link, other than the 91 to 74 part. That score sold it for me, because we ALL know they can't post anything on the internet that isn't true, right???If we WERE comparing features to features, though, as a semi-pro with hopes to eventually be full-time-pro (closer to retirement) I'd opt more for "fits my hands better (less strain on these aging fingers), longer battery life (less downtime should I be on a longer shoot), and double memory slots (redundancy should a card fail in the middle of a paying gig)". Then, as far as personal preference, I actually prefer an optical viewfinder as compared to a digital version, "weather sealing", and the comfort of dealing with a company that focuses specifically on cameras/optics instead of "everything electronic" (yes, it's an odd sort of comfort to me).
Of course, I may be leery of Sony because of the multiple DVD player failures, TV failure, car stereo failure, abysmal headphone quality, etc. I kind of view it like the old Chevy vs. Ford vs. Dodge argument. Each side has their arguments, each side can dig up stats to support those arguments, and strong voices/personalities to help them make their arguments, but it usually boils down to personal preference, brainwashing during their upbringing (tic), or a poor personal experience in their own past.
Also, for the record, I didn't watch/read/pay any attention to either of the "10 reasons" or "Nail in the coffin" articles/videos/whatever they are. I just kind of shook my head, checked to see what some of the comments might be, then moved to other threads. Then, a bit later, laughed and came back to post my "stats" to poke the fire, so to speak.
See above. I really wasn't trying to prove that the D7100 was superior to Sony's top of the line product.
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With all of that said... Hey, I'm on "Nikonites", and I happen to shoot a Nikon, so LUCKY ME! I'm in the right place! PEACE Y'ALL! Go take some photos!
AC016
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See above. I really wasn't trying to prove that the D7100 was superior to Sony's top of the line product.
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With all of that said... Hey, I'm on "Nikonites", and I happen to shoot a Nikon, so LUCKY ME! I'm in the right place! PEACE Y'ALL! Go take some photos!
I know you weren't trying to say the D7100 was better. I was just venting because Snapsort is silly
Yes, let's go take some photos and end this.sonicbuffalo_RIP
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I think you missed my point, slightly (although, yes, one would expect the high ISO performance and image quality to be better on a full frame sensor)... I was just showing that you can support any stance you want to take with articles off of the internet. For the most part, they mean nothing to me.
If we WERE comparing features to features, though, as a semi-pro with hopes to eventually be full-time-pro (closer to retirement) I'd opt more for "fits my hands better (less strain on these aging fingers), longer battery life (less downtime should I be on a longer shoot), and double memory slots (redundancy should a card fail in the middle of a paying gig)". Then, as far as personal preference, I actually prefer an optical viewfinder as compared to a digital version, "weather sealing", and the comfort of dealing with a company that focuses specifically on cameras/optics instead of "everything electronic" (yes, it's an odd sort of comfort to me).
Of course, I may be leery of Sony because of the multiple DVD player failures, TV failure, car stereo failure, abysmal headphone quality, etc. I kind of view it like the old Chevy vs. Ford vs. Dodge argument. Each side has their arguments, each side can dig up stats to support those arguments, and strong voices/personalities to help them make their arguments, but it usually boils down to personal preference, brainwashing during their upbringing (tic), or a poor personal experience in their own past.
Also, for the record, I didn't watch/read/pay any attention to either of the "10 reasons" or "Nail in the coffin" articles/videos/whatever they are. I just kind of shook my head, checked to see what some of the comments might be, then moved to other threads. Then, a bit later, laughed and came back to post my "stats" to poke the fire, so to speak.
See above. I really wasn't trying to prove that the D7100 was superior to Sony's top of the line product.
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With all of that said... Hey, I'm on "Nikonites", and I happen to shoot a Nikon, so LUCKY ME! I'm in the right place! PEACE Y'ALL! Go take some photos!
How can you comment on something you haven't watched? I would recommend you at least watch the '10 Reasons'. As for Thom Hogan, I like him a lot less than Ken Rockwell. But not to watch or read any of it and then comment just isn't right. But you do have the Primal Beast. I think you'll find some interesting tidbits. The one thing I will mention again is that contrary to what Jason says, Sony does NOT make all the sensors for Nikon cameras. They do make them for the D800(e) models though.
sonicbuffalo_RIP
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I apologize for posting a thom hogan masterpiece. lol He is kind of full of himself.
Didn't need to watch it... my mind is already at peace. That and the fact that, from the comments and discussions that followed, I knew enough about what was in the video. When I jumped into the DSLR world, I had friends that shot Canon, Nikon AND Sony. DX, FX, you name it. Then, I did a lot of research. What I wanted to do vs. what was available to me vs. potential longevity... yada yada.
I do admit that I had a slight interest when I heard about mirrorless cameras, but the first tiny little thing I held in my hands told me "no", and I haven't looked back. I'm also a huge member of "It's more the photographer and less what he's holding" camp, so unless there's truly a piece of equipment that can make me a modern day Ansel Adams or Bill Brandt...
sonicbuffalo_RIP
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Marilynne on the day we were shooting in Florida.
I like your new boat but I bet it is a gas hog.
I'm actually pleased with the Nikon 1 IQ, it's great for it's size and I have sold prints up to 16x20 from it.
I've decided to sell all of my Fx gear and go with the Olympus m4/3 system. I ignored my thoughts when I first got back into photography and my Fx move made hiking with gear a pain in the ass. I'll still have my Nikon 1 system so I remain a legit member here
AC016
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I'm actually pleased with the Nikon 1 IQ, it's great for it's size and I have sold prints up to 16x20 from it.
I've decided to sell all of my Fx gear and go with the Olympus m4/3 system. I ignored my thoughts when I first got back into photography and my Fx move made hiking with gear a pain in the ass. I'll still have my Nikon 1 system so I remain a legit member here
I must have woken up in a different dimension.... you did what??? lol
Wow, i never would have thought. I nearly went Olympus myself, but i wanted to stick with an APS-C camera. I am sure you will like the Olympus and the glass that comes with it.
Michael J.
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Before I decide something I have a stupid question: "Is the sensor easier to clean in a mirror-less cam"? Last Monday I asked Nikon Bangkok about cleaning my D5100 Sensor and they told me that I have to wait more than 2 Month to get it back.
That is crazy. I wa slooking in many shops and I can't find any cleaning sets as well. I get soon mad.
That is crazy. I wa slooking in many shops and I can't find any cleaning sets as well. I get soon mad.
Guess i should do some research and find out who Tom Hogan is but ime not that interested,people have changed systems all the time i have been into photography,the first major switch i remember was with the launch of the Olympus OM system,Olympus did some ground breaking things the size being the major factor then multi TTL flash,the latter was my reason for changing to Olympus at that time.
I do see threads like this as an unnecessary attempt to justify to others or themselves a dessision they have made,when no justification is needed,my only gripe with Nikon is there lack of support for owners who want to buy Nikon lenses but cant come up with the stupid amounts of money for long lenses,they then according to different sources attempt to restrict the use of lenses from the likes of Sigma and Tamron.
Canon from what i see do offer a more realistically priced lens option in the 400mm and 100-400m both reported to work well with converters.
I do see threads like this as an unnecessary attempt to justify to others or themselves a dessision they have made,when no justification is needed,my only gripe with Nikon is there lack of support for owners who want to buy Nikon lenses but cant come up with the stupid amounts of money for long lenses,they then according to different sources attempt to restrict the use of lenses from the likes of Sigma and Tamron.
Canon from what i see do offer a more realistically priced lens option in the 400mm and 100-400m both reported to work well with converters.
I stumbled upon him when checking what the thing with VR is. Apparently he's one of those that thinks VR should be turned off. The impression I get is that he really needs something to blame whenever a shot is bad since it surely must have had some technical reason. He himself can't be the reason.
To me, Nikon delivers tools. If tomorrow there are better tools, I will switch. Today it still doesn't look like there's much better. You know what they say about the grass at the other side.
To me, Nikon delivers tools. If tomorrow there are better tools, I will switch. Today it still doesn't look like there's much better. You know what they say about the grass at the other side.
I tend to pretty much ignore stuff like that from any "pros". My decision is solely based on my needs and the fact that I didn't stick to my original plan of keeping it small. When I first joined here I swore I would never go Fx and stick with Dx for form factor. I eventually went FX due to lens choices. After hiking last week about 6 miles with all Fx gear in tow I realized I should have stuck with my original thoughts. I also went with a light tripod and the mirror slap was just painful.
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sonicbuffalo_RIP
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The future is now, and lots of folks are ditching their huge equipment and going mirrorless. The images they produce are amazing as you can attest.
While that is true, sometimes the future is a bubble. I've seen more "new things" disappear as quickly as they appeared. The only thing that matters are lenses, the rest is plastic you'll replace every couple of years. If it ain't got the lenses, it ain't worth buying the plastic.
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