Scott Murray
Senior Member
Well this could just be the start.
Taking Photos Without Permission is Now Illegal in Hungary, Photographers Outraged
Taking Photos Without Permission is Now Illegal in Hungary, Photographers Outraged
Taking photos without permission illegal.
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rocketman122
Senior Member
Im not for it, but im neutral. I dont like to have my picture taken. it makes me feel uneasy when someone points a camera in my face and im empathic to those who dont like having theirs taken.
I was looking at the post here of the 50 1.8g 1.4g someone posted and so went to youtube to see af speeds between them. I can across Matt Grainger video of the 35 ART. dont ask how I got to it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l8qklsQO5qw
in it he goes around and just shoots and doesnt ask and is quite intrusive. hes lucky he didnt take my picture because I would not be happy. and because I dont like having my photo taken, I feel very uneasy and those that dont like their picture taken, I never push it. but it pissed me off that he was very pushy. I would get very physical with him if he pointed the lens in my face like he did with the guy with the hat. I do not like that.
hes such a fake ***. he says "oh I like your hat" just so he can get away with snapping pictures then he says "I dont really"
on another topic, what I noticed is that those reviewers on youtube do the talk really well, but suck at the walk. that goes for fro, for kai, for grainger, for smith, and others who paka paka all the time.
I was looking at the post here of the 50 1.8g 1.4g someone posted and so went to youtube to see af speeds between them. I can across Matt Grainger video of the 35 ART. dont ask how I got to it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l8qklsQO5qw
in it he goes around and just shoots and doesnt ask and is quite intrusive. hes lucky he didnt take my picture because I would not be happy. and because I dont like having my photo taken, I feel very uneasy and those that dont like their picture taken, I never push it. but it pissed me off that he was very pushy. I would get very physical with him if he pointed the lens in my face like he did with the guy with the hat. I do not like that.
hes such a fake ***. he says "oh I like your hat" just so he can get away with snapping pictures then he says "I dont really"
on another topic, what I noticed is that those reviewers on youtube do the talk really well, but suck at the walk. that goes for fro, for kai, for grainger, for smith, and others who paka paka all the time.
I truly hope you're right on that.
Sheer stupidity - the world is our to see it, to photograph it, to make drawings of it...
As long as it is a PUBLIC place, be it a street, a park, a river bank, a see coast, mountain ridge, pavement... it is absolutely crazy and without any grounds to forbid photographing people, animals, and/or any kind of objects available. NONSENSE.
By the way, let me share some info, which might not be widely known to the people outside of Europe: for a long time now, in this country, (my neighborhood - Hungary) the government and the political elite consists of so-called "ultra right wing political parties". This government has already been a pain in the *ss of the European Union, ever since Hungary become a part of it (part of the EU) because of some of the laws which, according to many European law experts, resemble those (laws) who were in power in Germany, during the Nazi era... This "photo law" might have something to do with it.
As long as it is a PUBLIC place, be it a street, a park, a river bank, a see coast, mountain ridge, pavement... it is absolutely crazy and without any grounds to forbid photographing people, animals, and/or any kind of objects available. NONSENSE.
By the way, let me share some info, which might not be widely known to the people outside of Europe: for a long time now, in this country, (my neighborhood - Hungary) the government and the political elite consists of so-called "ultra right wing political parties". This government has already been a pain in the *ss of the European Union, ever since Hungary become a part of it (part of the EU) because of some of the laws which, according to many European law experts, resemble those (laws) who were in power in Germany, during the Nazi era... This "photo law" might have something to do with it.
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Sheer stupidity - the world is our to see it, to photograph it, to make drawings of it... As long as it is a PUBLIC place, be it a street, a park, a river bank, a see coast, mountain ridge, pavement... it is absolutely crazy and without any grounds to forbid photographing people, animals, and/or any kind of objects available. NONSENSE.
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I suspect that the regulation has much to with controlling what is to be seen by the public and less to do with protecting the rights of individuals. It's a back door method of limiting the reach of social media and the freedom of public media. One wonders if the shadow of four decades of Soviet rule still darkens some offices within Hungary's government.
Since 9/11 in the U.S., a number of public transit agencies have arrested railroad buffs for taking pictures in public areas, under the guise of threat to infrastructure and Homeland Security. Every case has been reversed, but photographers have gone through miserable ordeals to regain their equipment and clear their names of criminal record.
Since 9/11 in the U.S., a number of public transit agencies have arrested railroad buffs for taking pictures in public areas, under the guise of threat to infrastructure and Homeland Security. Every case has been reversed, but photographers have gone through miserable ordeals to regain their equipment and clear their names of criminal record.
Benzphotography
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I think Matt G tried to do what Kai from digital rev (YouTube channel) does. I haven't watched Matt's full video yet. I saw him snap one guy and it made me uncomfortable
Kai is in China and It doesn't look like people give a rats over there and Kai does it well. I think granger is lucky he didn't get a round house. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
You've got the point here!:frown-new:
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In the land where your favorite camera makers are made and originated, you can expect to see signs like this in the shopping malls even around the subway stations.
Fun stuff not allowed by gqtuazon, on Flickr
Fun stuff not allowed by gqtuazon, on Flickr
There are a lot of things happening in the U.S. I never would have thought we'd see here and it seems to only be accelerating.
Don Kuykendall_RIP
RIP :(
I have actually seen a couple of scenes recently of children at the zoo that needed to be shot. each time I asked the parents first and told them what I was doing. Both times the parents were excited that I wanted to shoot their kids. Had it been an adult I probably would have discretely shot it and gone about my business. We have the right to shoot in public here BUT I think we have the responsibility to be respectful of others privacy. Don't shoot someone in a compromising position, or doing something that you would not like to be shot doing. Be discrete and not In-your-face. I would not be very nice if someone got it my face and started harassing me to get a photo of me.
That is one way of doing it Don is by asking for someone's permission which is what is expected here in Japan. It is fair game once you get their permission. On establishments, that is a different question.
Brightsparks
Senior Member
Im not happy about this I like to walk through the city taking random photos of interesting people going about there business.... what a shame
rocketman122
Senior Member
I think Matt G tried to do what Kai from digital rev (YouTube channel) does. I haven't watched Matt's full video yet. I saw him snap one guy and it made me uncomfortable
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yea, I noticed that too with kais videos. they just dont give a damn and they look drunk or stoned half the time anyway. I dont mind a photog walk around taking people pictures as long as its done in a respectful way. I dont like having mine taken, but some do.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zh6zr3wKRV0
in this pro photog/cheap camera challenge zack arias is there and hes so respectful and asks people if he can. hes humble, hes charismatic and smiles and seems very appreciative that someone lets him. matt grainger just pushed that 35mm in peoples faces. I was pissed when I saw that. hes lucky it wasnt me there. I dont have patience for that crap. be respectful of other people and their personal space. I know exactly how others feel when they have someone push a camera in their face.
Nero
Senior Member
All it takes is one person with anger management issues to grab the camera out of his hands and hit him over the head with it.
The reason it will never happen here in the US is because it would limit surveillance video, as well as drone and satellite video. This kind of surveillance is far to pervasive and far to useful to end anytime soon. Not only that but the laws are written very clearly as to what belongs to the public domain and what is not. If it can be seen from a public position then it is legal to shoot it. You may get punched in the nose by an angry husband (leading to a very lucrative law suit, if played properly) but it will never be made illegal. There's simply way too much importance placed on surveillance these days to allow any laws that would curtail the practice.
rocketman122
Senior Member
the issue with taking others photos is a very sensitive and delicate issue. I wouldnt mind if its done in a non intrusive way. I hate when my photo is taken so I know how it is. im very sensitive when people are in other peoples personal space. as a photographer, im never pushy, never get in another person space, always smile and very charismatic when im with people at weddings. I know people say, crap, its only 1/125 of second, whats the problem? some people dont know there are places in the world where they think if you photograph them, that youre stealing some of their soul.
with a hand on my heart, I salute Zack for the way he went about doing his walk around. so humble and so gentle. a real pro. then you see the barbaric way matt came and did his thing and the only thing he cared about was the review. lets put his attitude aside, the bigger problem was they way he pushed that 35mm lens in peoples faces. look at the composition and realize he was pretty close if he filled the image with the subjects he shot.
and all it takes is for one person to go berzerk on him. I would do the Babu finger sway (from seinfeld) and tell him, no dont take a picture. and if he persisted like he did with the clerk selling seafood, I would smack his lens and camera without hesitation. thats not cool. u want to shoot, ask. from faurther away do what you want. I say, always put yourself in the position the other person is. treat others like you want to be treated.
Nero
Senior Member
And once that person does go berserk, Matty boy will hopefully think twice before he goes around like he owns the streets.