SB-700 and the diffuser dome

looked dark. like raccoons. The light was ever changing on me. I also had a hard time seeing the screen in the bright light and I was afraid It wasn't turning out.

That was what I was hoping. That is what I want to be able to "Fix" with fill in flash outdoors. The ones I shot this weekend were not to bad with no flash. Had some clouds that gave a softlight. Not quite soft enough but not raccoon eyes.
 

Just-Clayton

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I got the large one. It does tend to make your flash fall forward from the weight. I saw a video of a photographer mounting it so that when you go from landscape to portrait you don't have to change it. I will post a picture tomorrow.
 
I got the large one. It does tend to make your flash fall forward from the weight. I saw a video of a photographer mounting it so that when you go from landscape to portrait you don't have to change it. I will post a picture tomorrow.

I am going out and do some tests the next time I can get a warm body in the hot sun. High noon with raccoon eyes. Plan on shooting without flash, Flash straight to subject, diffuser dome straight to subject and diffuser dome up at 45° and at 90°

Should be interesting.
 

Rick M

Senior Member
I am going out and do some tests the next time I can get a warm body in the hot sun. High noon with raccoon eyes. Plan on shooting without flash, Flash straight to subject, diffuser dome straight to subject and diffuser dome up at 45° and at 90°

Should be interesting.

​I'll be very interested in seeing the results!
 

John P

Senior Member
I am going out and do some tests the next time I can get a warm body in the hot sun. High noon with raccoon eyes. Plan on shooting without flash, Flash straight to subject, diffuser dome straight to subject and diffuser dome up at 45° and at 90°

Should be interesting.

Try shooting at 45 degrees. With the built in bounce card up. I have had great shots doing that.
I shoot like that indoors also sometimes.
 

fotojack

Senior Member
Made this from two pieces of craft neoprene, bonded back to back, with floral stem wire sandwiched in between.

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WayneF

Senior Member
Made this from two pieces of craft neoprene, bonded back to back, with floral stem wire sandwiched in between.

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I don't mean to be critical, esp of such good work. Am instead actually hoping it could be helpful as a useful way to think of it. I don't know any other way to say it.

Such efforts are very popular at first, but everyone really ought to learn to look at their pictures, to critically "see" their results, when comparing results.

Top picture appears to allow bounce, but the greater forward spill will totally obliterate the bounce, it becomes merely direct flash. A little larger than actual bare direct flash, but still flat direct flash (no bounce results left). Look at the shadows in the picture, specifically identify the shadows from bounce (won't be any), and the shadows from direct (all there is). Compare to same settings/situation with bare direct flash. Really look... and see.

Bottom picture makes no attempt at bounce (which seems more reasonable). It is indeed a little larger flash (like for outdoors). Big is the idea, and it cannot hurt, surely better than nothing, but this is not really large enough to much matter (except when very close, inches, near macro), But at least it makes no pretense of bounce.
 

fotojack

Senior Member
I don't mean to be critical, esp of such good work. Am instead actually hoping it could be helpful as a useful way to think of it. I don't know any other way to say it.

Such efforts are very popular at first, but everyone really ought to learn to look at their pictures, to critically "see" their results, when comparing results.

Top picture appears to allow bounce, but the greater forward spill will totally obliterate the bounce, it becomes merely direct flash. A little larger than actual bare direct flash, but still flat direct flash (no bounce results left). Look at the shadows in the picture, specifically identify the shadows from bounce (won't be any), and the shadows from direct (all there is). Compare to same settings/situation with bare direct flash. Really look... and see.

Bottom picture makes no attempt at bounce (which seems more reasonable). It is indeed a little larger flash (like for outdoors). Big is the idea, and it cannot hurt, surely better than nothing, but this is not really large enough to much matter (except when very close, inches, near macro), But at least it makes no pretense of bounce.

????

I just wanted to show how one can make their own flash benders and not spend a fortune. The size shown is jut one representation of what can be done. This just happens to be the size I chose to make. It can be shaped and twisted into any shape one desires. Works quite well, actually.
 

fotojack

Senior Member
Strangely enough, I can't see the photos I uploaded into the post! Wonder what's going on! Apparently you guys can see the pics?
 

carguy

Senior Member
????

I just wanted to show how one can make their own flash benders and not spend a fortune. The size shown is jut one representation of what can be done. This just happens to be the size I chose to make. It can be shaped and twisted into any shape one desires. Works quite well, actually.

I was thinking he quoted the wrong post?
 

WayneF

Senior Member
Strangely enough, I can't see the photos I uploaded into the post! Wonder what's going on! Apparently you guys can see the pics?

The pictures show on the first page (page 3), but only show as links on page 4. Could be a way the browser handles cached pictures?


Back to the principles, the third picture ought to be great lighting for closeup or macro lighting. Six inches big at six inches distance IS LARGE. And it is a little larger at any distance, but not much larger if compared to say eight feet.

And large as possible is the general idea of soft lighting.

But for a regular bounce card for indoor bounce work, think Small As Possible. The ceiling is large and it does the soft work, let it do that. The direct spill is just for some minor fill, at lower level than the bounce. The little pull out card is just about right, or maybe too big if very close. You can push it in halfway when you see it is too much.

EDIT: No, it is the way forum handles the pictures, and quotes them. Any direct link works on following pages.

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