Moab Man 2014 Project 365
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There are a few images done with a point and shoot here on my thread. I am teaching an elementary school basic photography course. For that reason I figured it was time to walk the walk that we all talk - it's not the camera but the photographer. I will tell you it's hard to walk the walk with low end point and shoot cameras. The lower right border of my images shows what camera was used. The point and shoot was a Kodak easy share of about nearly ten years age.
Just busting your chops, read something about on MoabLady's post. I have a Kodak easy share that is about that age too, I was actually surprised by the IQ. The one I have is a Kodak DX 6490.
Bravo to you for teaching the class, dont think I could do that but every time I am taking pictures I usually take time to share my limited knowledge to siblings of my sons team mates and such.
@Krs_2007
I sensed you were busting my chops or finding a nice way to tell me my photos suck
Either way, my wife killed my last feeling so I have none to hurt. This class was actually student driven. They have been viewing my photos for quite some time and are always excited to see what I have shot at my latest shoot. So I figured I would help them to learn the basics about:
1. Get friendly with your instruction manual. Your camera will do all kinds of cool things you don't know about.
2. Why are you shooting what you're shooting and what do you want to accomplish with the image. Are you just showing me a beautiful flower or are you showing an image that maybe has a story to it.
3. Rule of thirds and knowing that rules are actually just a suggestion.
4. Show something in a different way so that it becomes interesting. That was our egg exercise earlier on my thread.
5. Shooting people. General do's and don'ts.
6. Editing images in Picasa (didn't want to cost the kids/parents any additional money).
7. Tomorrow we will discuss lighting.
8. On the last day of class we will be presenting all of the students with a professionally printed copy of their best edited photo.
Trying to keep it simple, and fun, I am not getting into aperture, ISO, or shutter speed as the kids are shooting in auto anyway. Then to help the kids further along I set up a Wiki Classroom (actually the wife did it for me). The Wiki Classroom is a private invite only place the kids can post images and discuss photography. I set strict rules that discussion will ONLY be about photography or you will be removed. Second, when we signed the students up we signed the parents up too so they can see it all and monitor. Too many teachers get burned using Facebook or other social outlets that we took every precaution to keep our teacher butts safe.
It's been fun and we have some of the students actively engaged. And on last Friday we (MoabLady/Man) made one little girls day. We gave her an older 6 megapixel dslr we had sitting around. Too often we all sit on things we know we won't use but can't bring ourselves to let go of until one day it deteriorates from age. For that reason we decided to give it to her and who knows, maybe one day she will be the next Krs_2007.
@Krs_2007
I sensed you were busting my chops or finding a nice way to tell me my photos suck
This class was actually student driven. They have been viewing my photos for quite some time and are always excited to see what I have shot at my latest shoot. So I figured I would help them to learn the basics about:
1. Get friendly with your instruction manual. Your camera will do all kinds of cool things you don't know about.
2. Why are you shooting what you're shooting and what do you want to accomplish with the image. Are you just showing me a beautiful flower or are you showing an image that maybe has a story to it.
3. Rule of thirds and knowing that rules are actually just a suggestion.
4. Show something in a different way so that it becomes interesting. That was our egg exercise earlier on my thread.
5. Shooting people. General do's and don'ts.
6. Editing images in Picasa (didn't want to cost the kids/parents any additional money).
7. Tomorrow we will discuss lighting.
8. On the last day of class we will be presenting all of the students with a professionally printed copy of their best edited photo.
Trying to keep it simple, and fun, I am not getting into aperture, ISO, or shutter speed as the kids are shooting in auto anyway. Then to help the kids further along I set up a Wiki Classroom (actually the wife did it for me). The Wiki Classroom is a private invite only place the kids can post images and discuss photography. I set strict rules that discussion will ONLY be about photography or you will be removed. Second, when we signed the students up we signed the parents up too so they can see it all and monitor. Too many teachers get burned using Facebook or other social outlets that we took every precaution to keep our teacher butts safe.
It's been fun and we have some of the students actively engaged. And on last Friday we (MoabLady/Man) made one little girls day. We gave her an older 6 megapixel dslr we had sitting around. Too often we all sit on things we know we won't use but can't bring ourselves to let go of until one day it deteriorates from age. For that reason we decided to give it to her and who knows, maybe one day she will be the next Krs_2007.
George, your photos far from suck. I have actually been enjoying catching up on them. Honestly I have been thinking about the 7100 as a backup and was going to ask what you thought about it. I haven't had much energy for photo's lately with all the baseball tournaments, so been looking at yours for inspiration as of this next week I will be done with baseball for a few months.
Keep up the great work on the photos and with your class. That really is the best way to move photography forward.
@Krs_2007
I'm ok with suck. It's a funny story. Many years ago when I first started dipping my toes into photography for real I had an image in Moab, Utah that I was really quite proud of. This was the pro I was learning under. In a moment of engaged mouth before brain he responded with, "That photos really sucks." Looking back I agree, that photo really sucked. But it became my drive to improve, and under his tutelage I grew and developed. He was not trying to be mean or harsh, the mouth simply engaged before the brain could sugar coat it.
On the D7100, I love this camera and use it more than my D600 as it is more versatile.
1. The sensor picks up more detail.
2. "Reach" of the crop sensor means I don't have to pay huge amounts to get an FX lens that will achieve the same reach as the 7100's cropped distance zoom. And my FX lenses are extended on the D7100.
3. Cropping down on the D7100 gives me many more megapixels to work with because my D600 and 7100 have the same count but they are much tighter on the 7100 giving me more left over after cropping.
4. Going between the 600 & 7100 is seamless in layout.
5. DOF is larger and makes shooting macro easier when I'm trying to pull in more of a tiny subject.
For the above reasons I use it more than the D600.
My D600 is my go to when I have a portrait shoot, Milky Way, low light, or a high ISO need. So I guess I would say the D7100 is my go to camera with the D600 stepping in where the D7100 starts to falter.
In my opinion I don't think you can find a better pairing than the D6xx and the D7100.
Well I had a 7k and miss it sometimes, which is why I will be looking at the 7100. I really like the way these bodies feel and you hit all the reasons why I am thinking about getting the 7100.
Michael J.
Senior Member
Great photos here inside, WOW!
BackdoorArts
Senior Member
I'm the same way, and when a low mileage used D7100 pops up I'm always tempted. But the buffer thing upset me with the D7000, so them not addressing it on the D7100 was a deal breaker, and I'll use the D800 and crop until they fix it in a new model.
You know Jake, I keep forgetting that buffer issue. I need to find one to play with
@Krs_2007 @BackdoorHippie
In my mind, and in my first ~4 months of owning the camera it was an issue. I was hitting the buffer time and again shooting soccer, baseball, paint drying, etc... If you ask me now, and my skills have improved immensely with shooting sports and the timing that goes with it, I never hit the buffer anymore. Generally, the action is covered within four rapid shots and I still have three in reserve for aftermath crashes like snowboarding jumps.
We all have our shooting styles and what we like to shoot, but for me, the 7 shot buffer issues was no longer a problem once my skills had improved and I better understood the sport I was shooting.
Thats good to know, Thanks.
BackdoorArts
Senior Member
I think we all learn to work around the shortcomings of our equipment, so while I can shoot much longer bursts with my D800 of a bird in flight, I can only do it at 4 fps, which is a drag because it does make a difference in terms of wing position. It's always about working with what you've got and knowing what you can and can't live without.
That is an excellent example of where this particular tool would come up short. My examples fit within the buffer length, but a bird in flight with the right wing position it would be a problem.