Macro on a budget

rocketman122

Senior Member
Yeah, I don't know where its getting 50 f/1.0 from?? I think even shooting those you really hate is frowned upon, so I'll try to stick to just shooting people with a camera ;) or did you mean with this super sharp lens. Some folk seem to get tetchy when you take their picture, something about highlighting their flaws....

looking at the exif in the picture. its showing it because its an AIS lens. dod you configure the lens as non cpu?
 

Felisek

Senior Member
btw that tube set is way overpriced. its mostly plastic and stacking will cause flex and wobble and throw your whole tiny adjustments off. the Af doesnt work well if it ever does and I had returned mine.
I bought a set like this which is much more stable. I never used AF when doing any macro work because the af cant do minor adjustments well. its so much faster to just adjust the focus ring. fast precise and youll catch the moment you need faster than relying on your AF to lock.
its all metal and no flex or wobble at all. it does its job very well. I also had the kenko set but I have no idea where I put it and didnt see a reason to spend $120 for macro rings. thats crazy.

Macro Extension Tube Ring Adapter for Canon Nikon Sony Olympus M42 Mount Camera | eBay

this is shown on a canon lens but its the same for nikon. very well made and cheap as chips.
btw the kluncking from him wobbling the gear is the lens internals. not from the mount or the macro tubes. the tubes are metal and very solid.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0h4jT3kpykI

Does camera measure light through these tubes? They don't have any contacts, so the camera can't talk to the lens and get distance information.
 

J-see

Senior Member
The Nikon tubes are basically an open piece of metal allowing zero communication with the lens. As I discovered after buying. But I can still meter light through them with the D750 and use the exposure preview when switching to live. I also get focus confirmation since that is all done by the cam.

But unless it is a lens with an aperture ring like my macro, if the TC does not communicate, it closes the lens down completely. Only when fumbling stuff into the aperture switch I could get the lens somewhat open but I'd rather not do that.

There are other brands of E-tubes allowing communication so be careful which you buy. Else you end up like me paying too much money for what is basically just a tube.
 
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rocketman122

Senior Member
Does camera measure light through these tubes? They don't have any contacts, so the camera can't talk to the lens and get distance information.

its fully manual. you adjust through the aperture ring, shoot, adjust your specs (aperture/iso/shutter) for exposure. thats the downside to them. I use them for ring shots or stuff like that.
best is always to buy a dedicated macro lens.
 

Felisek

Senior Member
its fully manual. you adjust through the aperture ring, shoot, adjust your specs (aperture/iso/shutter) for exposure. thats the downside to them. I use them for ring shots or stuff like that.
best is always to buy a dedicated macro lens.

Ah, the aperture ring. Forgot about it. This is not going to work with my 85 mm G. Shame... I hoped for a cheap way into macro photography, but it seems I will have to invest in a new lens.
 

J-see

Senior Member
Ah, the aperture ring. Forgot about it. This is not going to work with my 85 mm G. Shame... I hoped for a cheap way into macro photography, but it seems I will have to invest in a new lens.

I used diopters filters when I first explored macro and although there are disadvantages to it, the results were pretty decent. I used B+W which delivered good quality.
 

rocketman122

Senior Member
Ah, the aperture ring. Forgot about it. This is not going to work with my 85 mm G. Shame... I hoped for a cheap way into macro photography, but it seems I will have to invest in a new lens.

the G lenses pretty much screwed everyone. the reason why I dont upgrade any of my D lenses is becasue I plan to getting into video for weddings and to have the aperture control is a huge plus.
videographers love AIS/AI lenses. sony canon fuji panasonic wedding videographers love them. but were screwed because we cant use none of their lenses on our mounts. I think the kenko will pass aperture info though...check first.
 

J-see

Senior Member
This is one of my early improv-macros when I used a diopter on the 70-300mm. Admittedly I not really knew what I was doing back then. It's a full shot I think but I'd have to check to be sure.

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The filters are not too expensive which makes it a pretty cheap method to explore the type of photography.
 
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rocketman122

Senior Member
This is one of my early improv-macros when I used a diopter on the 70-300mm. Admittedly I not really knew what I was doing back then. It's a full shot I think but I'd have to check to be sure.



The filters are not too expensive which makes it a pretty cheap method to explore the type of photography.


nice! a bit processed for my taste but nice comp for sure. CA looks like its quite strong or is it me?



yep, same as the one in the link above OP posted. just with no name. theyre all the same gear that comes from china. I had those. they wobble and flex and the contacts dont always work. problem is the build is not great if you use heavier lenses or stack 2 or 3. its mostly palstic. I returned mine and got the all metal ones only because I didnt mind no contacts. I work around it without issues. Im not a big macro shooter and only use it for a few images in a wedding. problem is when you start using 2+ rings the flex is noticeable and the accuracy of focus plays a part because macro needs precise adjustments and this wobble really annoys. thats why I got the all metal. again, shooting manual is no issue for my few still life images I shoot during a wedding.

you can find a very cheap set for closeup filters from ebay. 3 filters with different strengths but didnt want to go that way since it WILL reduce IQ. tubes make u lose some light but no issue at all with IQ.
 

mikew_RIP

Senior Member
nice! a bit processed for my taste but nice comp for sure. CA looks like its quite strong or is it me?




yep, same as the one in the link above OP posted. just with no name. theyre all the same gear that comes from china. I had those. they wobble and flex and the contacts dont always work. problem is the build is not great if you use heavier lenses or stack 2 or 3. its mostly palstic. I returned mine and got the all metal ones only because I didnt mind no contacts. I work around it without issues. Im not a big macro shooter and only use it for a few images in a wedding. problem is when you start using 2+ rings the flex is noticeable and the accuracy of focus plays a part because macro needs precise adjustments and this wobble really annoys. thats why I got the all metal. again, shooting manual is no issue for my few still life images I shoot during a wedding.

you can find a very cheap set for closeup filters from ebay. 3 filters with different strengths but didnt want to go that way since it WILL reduce IQ. tubes make u lose some light but no issue at all with IQ.

I just read the bit about them being metal tubes,with the close up filters as you say they adversely effect IQ but i understand if one of the old nikon (is apochromatic ) filters could be tracked down on ebay in the right filter size and diopter they give decent results ime talking the two element units,
 

J-see

Senior Member
Not so sure that I do to be honest.

I think mine is the Nikon PK-13. It's just a tube that does nothing but sit between the lens and the cam. I use it to connect my TC2x to my macro but that's all use it has.

I'd buy another brand if I was you. It was Kenko I think that allows communication but you'd have to check.
 

Elliot87

Senior Member
I think mine is the Nikon PK-13. It's just a tube that does nothing but sit between the lens and the cam. I use it to connect my TC2x to my macro but that's all use it has.

I'd buy another brand if I was you. It was Kenko I think that allows communication but you'd have to check.

I have a set of non cpu tubes that I've borrowed from a relative, think I'll give them a go.
 

rocketman122

Senior Member
Not so sure that I do to be honest.

your 55 does pretty well without a tube. if you ever want to go higher magnification then those metal ones I posted would be your best bet and if you got the expensive kenko it wouldnt help because you dont have AF or contacts weith that lens. youd just waste money. they cost $140+ for a set. dammit where did I put it..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3J8fFQwt7pc

thats for configuring the specs of the lens. it wont help with tubes though that have no contatcs. with kenko or the mid range one it should pass it along for those with G lenses. D/AI/AIS lenses..Id go manual.
 
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rocketman122

Senior Member
I just read the bit about them being metal tubes,with the close up filters as you say they adversely effect IQ but i understand if one of the old nikon (is apochromatic ) filters could be tracked down on ebay in the right filter size and diopter they give decent results ime talking the two element units,


didnt understand your comment. you have these closeup filters? in the film days, canon made a very desirable close up 77mm filter that was quite expensive. things have changed since then. personally I like the tubes.
 

mikew_RIP

Senior Member
I was just saying i didn't realize the tubes where plastic,never had the Nikon close up filters but they where supposed to be very good
 
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