looking to shoot wildlife

mikew_RIP

Senior Member
That might well be true. I tried the P610 in Jessops the other day and with my shaky hands and poor indoor light it was almost impossible to get anything looking sharp.

Hope you didn't make the mistake i did first time i tried it,I forgot to adjust the diopter then thought this is no good,:D
 

Elliot87

Senior Member
Hope you didn't make the mistake i did first time i tried it,I forgot to adjust the diopter then thought this is no good,:D

I might have done that but a couple of shots at the wider end were nice and sharp. I didn't want to look at it too much as I was trying to convince myself that I didn't want one.
 

Stoshowicz

Senior Member
I cant do a 1 dollar test as ime from the uk and we have proper money :D but will think of something,you need a use for a bridge camera and with me its not the obvious,if i go to the 300 and converter some things will be to large or to close or both,I dont want to be changing lenses as thats the best way to miss a wildlife shot,the bridge camera will be a short close focus telephoto or a wide angle what ever i need.
At the moment i haven't had a telephoto for DX just got the sigma 120-400 on loan,this means i have been using the bridge camera for my birding,it certainly makes you improve your field craft and as you say the pictures dont tell any one how close i was this why i keep saying its not a 1400mm its a pre cropped 258mm.

Oh yeah I forgot about you not having our currency,, umm, I dont have any euros either. You dont have any Thai Baht ? I presume. I feel it in my bones that its you making that camera look good. I dont want to put you on the spot , and have everybody go Geesh ! what a pile of crap ! its all Mikes fault. :) Same deal with any posted examples of pix one cant directly compare with... its just so darn tempting to see those 85X shots and dream of not having to lug all the carp around. If the sensor and analog to digital converter on one of those cameras was as good as they Could be, they truly would be a monster to contend with, but as it is we each end up picking our trade-offs. I liked the canon from a canoe , but when on a charter, the waves made it useless to extend the zoom. ( I think I could shoot the tamzooka from a moving horse )
 
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mikew_RIP

Senior Member
Oh yeah I forgot about you not having our currency,, umm, I dont have any euros either. You dont have any Thai Baht ? I presume. I feel it in my bones that its you making that camera look good. I dont want to put you on the spot , and have everybody go Geesh ! what a pile of crap ! its all Mikes fault. :) Same deal with any posted examples of pix one cant directly compare with... its just so darn tempting to see those 85X shots and dream of not having to lug all the carp around. If the sensor and analog to digital converter on one of those cameras was as good as they Could be, they truly would be a monster to contend with, but as it is we each end up picking our trade-offs. I liked the canon from a canoe , but when on a charter, the waves made it useless to extend the zoom. ( I think I could shoot the tamzooka from a moving horse )

I think there is a lot of sense in that, i keep saying the camera is great within its limitations and its not a answer all problems super zoom,to get a small bird you need to get very close and as soon as i get my new lens i will be shooting that,mind you i do intend to try to use it on the V2.
 

Stoshowicz

Senior Member
I think there is a lot of sense in that, i keep saying the camera is great within its limitations and its not a answer all problems super zoom,to get a small bird you need to get very close and as soon as i get my new lens i will be shooting that,mind you i do intend to try to use it on the V2.
So true, no matter what you pick , for small birds you need to be relatively close (with glass lenses at least) I never tried one of those mirror lens things. I did however do a comparison with a dollar bill between my own two cameras at 25 feet -which was far enough- both zoomed all the way out, the 50X optical , was a bit clearer to read than cropping in on the 600mm ... but not much. and of course the 200X digital was actually worse because it constitutes a crop and digital 'massage'. So at least potentially an 85X optical with a f4 aperture, could work out to some better results.
 

Blacktop

Senior Member
For some reason its also harder to find a small bird with an EVF

I have a "rule" when shooting birds. If it's so far away that I have trouble finding it, I don't even bother. :) To me, a super zoom like that would be good for filling the frame, but not to shoot something a mile away.
 

mikew_RIP

Senior Member
I have a "rule" when shooting birds. If it's so far away that I have trouble finding it, I don't even bother. :) To me, a super zoom like that would be good for filling the frame, but not to shoot something a mile away.

Only ever use it fairly close,what i meant was a small bird in a bush can be difficult to locate with the EVF,i have said on several occasions super zooms are not normally for distance work,they are for as you say filling the frame with smaller close subjects.
 
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