Hogan confirms Nikon firmware defeats 3 rd party products.

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BackdoorArts

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Man, that stinks. I've had 2 encounters with the folks there that have been nothing but tremendous. I guess it all depends on who you get.
 
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Nathan Lanni

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Millie said:
Well it does I just sold all my Sigma and bought Nikon lenses ..I cannot be pissed about when at a wedding with stuff thats not 100%
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While I appreciate your approach - you have to be 100% percent confident in those situations - I'm still a little incredulous. I may end up with mud on my face, but I hope not for the benefit of the Nikon community, and Nikon as a company, and here's why.

Nikon's legacy compatibility with cpu lenses, flashes, etc., goes way back. Doing huge changes to their code would affect their legacy products as well. Furthermore, no doubt Nikon was very tight lipped with how their firmware code works, just like Microsoft was/is with all the other third party companies out there that make M$ Windows compatible software apps.

Sigma and Tamron are Nikon competitors, and Nikon ultimately benefits from Sigma and Tamron being in the lens market (because it stimulates sales for everyone) Nikon will not share their firmware code with either company. It's up to the 3rd party companies like Sigma to reverse engineer other company's code - say a Nikon camera body - so their products will work. They have to buy Nikon\Canon\Olympus\etc. products just like you and me, then tweak their products to get full compatibility. This goes on with every new model the OEM's make.

Nikon, no doubt is just like M$ or Canon and everyone else that tweaks their proprietary code. A whole range of incompatibilities crop up. The intent isn't to cause chaos, even though that's the result, and it doesn't effect everyone or every compatible product out there. It's hit or miss depending upon how well the 3rd party companies sleuth M$ code, or in this case Nikon's code.

It's really bad policy for Nikon to intentionally do something like this. Not saying they didn't, but the Nikon exec's know they will generate tons of ill will toward their product and permanently drive customers away from their product lines.

I'm guessing if there are incompatibilities with 3rd party products, the companies will analyze their product and make appropriate changes. Hopefully they will notifiy their client base and help them out.

FWIW
 
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cadomniel

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So I have tested the Sigma 17-50/2.8 on my D7100 and had the same problem as Millie: the image preview stays on the screen for 60seconds and that drains the battery a lot faster. Haven't done any scientific tests on it yet but it seems to focus better with the D5100 as well, or at least the images are sharper with D5100 and Sigma 17-50 but I buought this for the D7100.

I tried on my D5100 and everything worked fine.
I think I might just exchange it for the Nikon 17-55/2.8 at least won't have as many problems done the road with the Nikon lens.
 
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BackdoorArts

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Hackers are always working, it's what they do. While it's always tempting to "fix" a problem, I'm not big on the idea of loading a hack into a tool I love that might just render it inoperable. The cost of an OEM battery vs. their cheap counterparts doesn't justify the price of replacing/repairing a dead body.
 
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