Dear Sigma

[BackdoorArts]

Y'all are missing my point - which is that a $2000 lens should not come with something more akin to a AAA roadmap for instructions. I can certainly figure out a way to make use of it, but I shouldn't have to.

 

[Don Kuykendall_RIP]

Y'all are missing my point - which is that a $2000 lens should not come with something more akin to a AAA roadmap for instructions. I can certainly figure out a way to make use of it, but I shouldn't have to.

All the instruction sheets I have seen that are actually packed with the equipment are usually in such small print I can't read them anyway so the first thing I do is to go online and download the instruction manuals and store them on my laptop. The funniest ones are the ones that come with new computers and they consist of of one big page printed on both sides with nothing but big photos showing the setup. No words at all

 

[Horoscope Fish]

Y'all are missing my point - which is that a $2000 lens should not come with something more akin to a AAA roadmap for instructions. I can certainly figure out a way to make use of it, but I shouldn't have to.

Oh I understood your point perfectly, which is why I offered to try and put together something easy to use.

 

[480sparky]

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Print instructions how you want.

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Think of it this way: If the puny, cheesy instruction manual is the ONLY thing you have to complain about for this lens......................

 

[NealB]

I'm not 100% certain exactly what you'd like your manual to look like but I have access to Adobe Acrobat Pro which gives me advanced editing control over published PDF's. If what you need is something along the lines of cutting and pasting the relevant pages of the manual into a single PDF then I might be able to do that for you. I'm no pro when it comes to using Acrobat, and a lot will depend on how the original PDF was formatted, but if you tell me what you want I'd be happy to see if it's "doable".

I would be very grateful if you could do that. Normally I could do that but I had a stroke last week and I am having issues performing tasks like that yet.

 

[rocketman122]

I shoot weddings. I switch lenses all the time. one lens can be on a different camera a few times in an event. thats quite a cripple. crap, didnt know that. kinda makes the whole appeal of the dock..meh.

 

[Dawg Pics]

Thanks for the detailed explanation.

 

[ryan20fun]

I shoot weddings. I switch lenses all the time. one lens can be on a different camera a few times in an event. thats quite a cripple. crap, didnt know that. kinda makes the whole appeal of the dock..meh.

You could use the averages of the two camera's and then use the in body tuneing to bring into the correct focus adjustment.

 

[Danno_RIP]

I would be very grateful if you could do that. Normally I could do that but I had a stroke last week and I am having issues performing tasks like that yet.

Sorry to hear that Neal. I know what you mean.

 

[BackdoorArts]

I shoot weddings. I switch lenses all the time. one lens can be on a different camera a few times in an event. thats quite a cripple. crap, didnt know that. kinda makes the whole appeal of the dock..meh.

I don't buy this level of disdain. As a Nikon shooter you're handcuffed to a single AF Fine Tune point on any lens and you deal with it. IOW you blindly accept the way every zoom varies its focus and simply tune it to one spot and shoot. Sigma gives you the opportunity to tailor your zooms to 16 points throughout their range. Yes, this can only make it "perfect" on only one camera at a time, but if you use multiple bodies, especially similar bodies, you can also choose to adjust it so that it focuses more accurately on all bodies by profiling each of them across 16 focus points and choosing a set of adjustments that may not be perfect on any one body but it's still an across the focal length improvement one every body compared to a lens straight out of the box. People pay more for focus calibration software than for the dock. You're spitting sour grapes.

 

[rocketman122]

I don't buy this level of disdain. As a Nikon shooter you're handcuffed to a single AF Fine Tune point on any lens and you deal with it. IOW you blindly accept the way every zoom varies its focus and simply tune it to one spot and shoot. Sigma gives you the opportunity to tailor your zooms to 16 points throughout their range. Yes, this can only make it "perfect" on only one camera at a time, but if you use multiple bodies, especially similar bodies, you can also choose to adjust it so that it focuses more accurately on all bodies by profiling each of them across 16 focus points and choosing a set of adjustments that may not be perfect on any one body but it's still an across the focal length improvement one every body compared to a lens straight out of the box. People pay more for focus calibration software than for the dock. You're spitting sour grapes.

said the man whos crying over a folded up manual. my problem is more severe then a manual when my reputation is on the line. give me what you took BDH. I wanna be in lala land also haha

 

[BackdoorArts]

my problem is more severe then a manual when my reputation is on the line.

This is LOL funny. I've pointed out clearly that using any lens the way you do now is more of a compromise than using Sigma's dock to adjust a lens so it responds more accurately to all your bodies, even if it's just in a couple areas, and yet you still somehow believe this is a risk to your reputation?! That, I believe, is your problem.

All I did was point out that Sigma cheaped out on a manual. No tears were actually shed. A little prone to overreact, aren't you?

 

[rocketman122]

either way its a compromise. nikons fine tune or sigma. both have their minuses. not reasonable to do an average for cameras.

 

[skene]

manuals? we dont need no stinkin manuals!!!

 

[BackdoorArts]

either way its a compromise. nikons fine tune or sigma. both have their minuses. not reasonable to do an average for cameras.

Because doing no tuning at all would be more reasonable. SMH

 

[rocketman122]

we do not see eye to eye. when you send sigma your letter for a better manual, tell them they need to implement possibilities for different cameras.

 

[benjinat17]

It's shocking really. I'd rather they didn't bother and just directed us to a pdf on the website that was language-specific, rather than that fold-out nonsense.