D750 vs X-T1

Woodyg3

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I play bass guitar and people are always posting audio clips to see if you can tell which bass is which. I think it's interesting and fun. Others take great offense and point out all the variables that can't be accounted for when recording two basses. Anyway, the pics are too small for me to get super interested. Still, fun to see the typical fireworks associated with any crop frame vs. full frame discussion. :)
 

J-see

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They both can take good shots but the idea that crop equals full would imply anyone paying more money for a D4S is a very, very silly person.
 

Wolfeye

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Image quality is better with a FF DSLR. Fuji's tricks look good unless you delve deeper, then you see them for just that. If you want control wheels and dials buy an X-T1. That's why I bought one. If you want great images the D750 is your best bet.

For my next post I will compare the X-T1 to Allah, mainly to be less controversial.
 

AC016

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Image quality is better with a FF DSLR. Fuji's tricks look good unless you delve deeper, then you see them for just that. If you want control wheels and dials buy an X-T1. That's why I bought one. If you want great images the D750 is your best bet.

For my next post I will compare the X-T1 to Allah, mainly to be less controversial.

What tricks are you talking about?
 

Whiskeyman

Senior Member
"Can't we all just get along?" - Rodney King

Both types of cameras have their places where they are the better tool for a specific job. A lot of misconceptions abound concerning either format, and a lot of it was initiated by camera company marketing.

Use the right tool for your current task, if it is an option for you. If not, use what you have in the optimal way for the situation.

WM
 

Eyelight

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Just for kicks, I wondered over to Flickr and did a tag search using XT-1 and D750. If I hadn't known which search I did, I wouldn't have known which search I did.

It did appear from the few pages of images I skimmed over that the D750 user(s) may have had the edge in skill level.:)
 

Wolfeye

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What tricks are you talking about?

Mainly the hype about the X-Trans sensors. I remember fondly how "good" my photos looked when I got my X20, even in low light. But if you look closer you see the trick. It's the same loss of detail and smearing that others have used to appear better in high-ISO pictures. I think Fuji does an excellent job with this technique. On a typical web image you might not need utlra fine resolution. The Fuji is a good choice there, but at its core the image has the aforementioned flaws. A D750 (which I don't own, although I shot real estate professionally with the similarly-sensored D600 for years) will have a fundamentally better image with more detail and less smearing. So you can do web with it or blow it up to a 24"x36" print. It's a matter of versatility.
 

AC016

Senior Member
Just for kicks, I wondered over to Flickr and did a tag search using XT-1 and D750. If I hadn't known which search I did, I wouldn't have known which search I did.

It did appear from the few pages of images I skimmed over that the D750 user(s) may have had the edge in skill level.:)

LMAO, wow, at least you make me laugh. I did the same and i really don't see how you come to that conclusion. There are a lot of awesome shots. Silly statement.
 

AC016

Senior Member
Mainly the hype about the X-Trans sensors. I remember fondly how "good" my photos looked when I got my X20, even in low light. But if you look closer you see the trick. It's the same loss of detail and smearing that others have used to appear better in high-ISO pictures. I think Fuji does an excellent job with this technique. On a typical web image you might not need utlra fine resolution. The Fuji is a good choice there, but at its core the image has the aforementioned flaws. A D750 (which I don't own, although I shot real estate professionally with the similarly-sensored D600 for years) will have a fundamentally better image with more detail and less smearing. So you can do web with it or blow it up to a 24"x36" print. It's a matter of versatility.


You are talking about an X20, which has a 2/3" sensor. Quite different from an APS-C sensor. I have seen none of what you mention with my XP1. If you would like to show samples, great. Since you are comparing an 2/3" sensor to a full frame sensor, it's a given that the D600 will have better IQ. You can do 24 x 36 just fine with an APS-C sensor (which the X-T1 is and what we should be talking about, not a 2/3" sensor). Anyhow, that is your personal experience. But, you may want to talk about the cameras that are actually being spoken about, not a compact X20 with a 2/3" sensor.
 

Wolfeye

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You are talking about an X20, which has a 2/3" sensor. Quite different from an APS-C sensor. I have seen none of what you mention with my XP1. If you would like to show samples, great. Since you are comparing an 2/3" sensor to a full frame sensor, it's a given that the D600 will have better IQ. You can do 24 x 36 just fine with an APS-C sensor (which the X-T1 is and what we should be talking about, not a 2/3" sensor). Anyhow, that is your personal experience. But, you may want to talk about the cameras that are actually being spoken about, not a compact X20 with a 2/3" sensor.

You see the tree but not the forest. I mentioned the X20 because that's how I got my introduction to X-Trans sensors. The X-T1 has the same thing. It's an X-Trans sensor. If you like yours, fine, great. I like my X-T1 just fine and dandy too. I just don't think the image quality rivals any other 16meg APS-C sensor and it's as far away from a 24meg FF as any other 16meg APS-C sensor is.
 

Eyelight

Senior Member
Just for kicks, I wondered over to Flickr and did a tag search using XT-1 and D750. If I hadn't known which search I did, I wouldn't have known which search I did.

It did appear from the few pages of images I skimmed over that the D750 user(s) may have had the edge in skill level.:)

LMAO, wow, at least you make me laugh. I did the same and i really don't see how you come to that conclusion. There are a lot of awesome shots. Silly statement.

Note the terms few, skimmed and edge, and the grinny at the end. I suppose I could have said slight edge. But glad you got a good laugh out of it.

What's missing in most of these debates is some good humor and drinks. :very_drunk:
 

AC016

Senior Member
You see the tree but not the forest. I mentioned the X20 because that's how I got my introduction to X-Trans sensors. The X-T1 has the same thing. It's an X-Trans sensor. If you like yours, fine, great. I like my X-T1 just fine and dandy too. I just don't think the image quality rivals any other 16meg APS-C sensor and it's as far away from a 24meg FF as any other 16meg APS-C sensor is.

Comparing my Fuji to the D5100 i had (16mp APS-C), the Fuji blows it away in the DR department and the noise department. What other 16mp APS-C sensor are you talking about? They are years old and DXO (if you were wanting a real test) has not even tested a Fuji camera yet and probably never will. It really is a bold statement to say that it does not rival any other 16mp APS-C sensor, especially since no one has put it up against all the APS-C 16mp sensors out there. We all know that FF is going to have an edge, though negligible, over an APS-C sensor. No need to tell me what i already know. The point of the post was to show how close the photos were and to show that a photo taken by a FF camera, does not "scream" full frame. Anyhow, in the end, content is king. Oh, if you don't like the IQ of your X-T1, you can always send it to me.
 

J-see

Senior Member
When I'm driving in a Fiat Uno next to a Ferrari on the highway and we're both going 60mph, I could say; "Look, there's no difference between both!"
 

Rick M

Senior Member
Lol, you guys get so wrapped up in my sensor is bigger than yours :). I've sold a lot of 16x20's made with the Nikon1 Cx sensor (only 1"!). When customers thumb through the prints they cannot tell if I used a D610, V2 or the Olympus EM-1. But I do understand such debates are the bread and butter of forums :).
 

AC016

Senior Member
Lol, you guys get so wrapped up in my sensor is bigger than yours :). I've sold a lot of 16x20's made with the Nikon1 Cx sensor (only 1"!). When customers thumb through the prints they cannot tell if I used a D610, V2 or the Olympus EM-1. But I do understand such debates are the bread and butter of forums :).

True ;)
 
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