D750 1 Point Below D610 In DXoMark Scoring

[BackdoorArts]

there was a dprevew post showing that in nef its exactly the same as the d610 but in jpeg its clearly better.

Are you saying that the images appear the same in the RAW output, or are you saying that they are identically codified the way the D600 and D610 are (i.e. if you edit the EXIF data in a D610 image it will open as a D600 image and everything works perfectly)? Post a link, because all I can find are folks like you and I insisting it is or isn't the same. My favorite comment is someone calling it a "tweaked D610 sensor". Well, if it's "tweaked" then it's not the same, even if it's built on the same platform. And if a D800e is simply a "tweaked D800" does that mean it has no merit?

FYI, I'm simply quoting you and not mincing words or arguing with you or your point - I'm just saying that even if it is the same sensor technology Nikon has made marked improvements in how they're using it, and that's the important factor here.

To a person, anyone who has used it has remarked on the improvements (I've said before, without the D600 fiasco I do believe that the D750 would have been called the D610, and that the numbers are merely away of avoiding comparisons). And as such, given the modest increase in price over the D600/610 what you get for your extra money is easily justified in my mind - though not the kind of justification that would scream, "Sell your D610s and trade up!!", and I don't believe that was ever Nikon's intent. I expect this to be the death nail for new D610's, and we've seen the price decrease that is a portent of that, and I feel Nikon just wants the whole 600 series to fade into history (if only that it would).

Regardless, it's a great camera. A really, really great camera. I give it a 7.1756 on the Jake Scale.

 

[rocketman122]

thank god for the .0056 on the end. that makes the difference haha

here it is
2nd TRY : D750 - D610 RAW high ISO comparison - no difference??: Nikon FX SLR (DF, D1-D4, D600-D800) Talk Forum: Digital Photography Review

 

[BackdoorArts]

thank god for the .0056 on the end. that makes the difference haha

here it is
2nd TRY : D750 - D610 RAW high ISO comparison - no difference??: Nikon FX SLR (DF, D1-D4, D600-D800) Talk Forum: Digital Photography Review

You never want to end with 2 digits not divisible by 7 on the Jake Scale.

I haven't shot the side-by-side stuff for my review yet, so I will form my own opinion. Suffice it to say, I'm not seeing the same in practice. I routinely use Auto ISO and get shots coming in at 6400. I'm seeing less in the way of harsh noise with the D750. It's not "OMG, it's 1 to 2 stops better!!", but I'm seeing a 1 stop increase in what I would consider the "easily usable range".

 

[rocketman122]

You never want to end with 2 digits not divisible by 7 on the Jake Scale.

I haven't shot the side-by-side stuff for my review yet, so I will form my own opinion. Suffice it to say, I'm not seeing the same in practice. I routinely use Auto ISO and get shots coming in at 6400. I'm seeing less in the way of harsh noise with the D750. It's not "OMG, it's 1 to 2 stops better!!", but I'm seeing a 1 stop increase in what I would consider the "easily usable range".

divisible by 7 hahaha

you now psyched me up to get it. thank you. still waiting for a grip. cant without one. Im buying grey (live overseas so usa warranty isnt necessary) and with buying mack diamond warranty which adds $200 or so, I cant afford $380 for the grip, so I have to see when 3rd party offers come.

btw, you shoot video ever with your gear?

 

[Nero]

A picture is worth a thousand words, and some of those words say a lot more than simple numbers do so why bother with them? ;D

 

[BackdoorArts]

divisible by 7 hahaha

you now psyched me up to get it. thank you. still waiting for a grip. cant without one. Im buying grey (live overseas so usa warranty isnt necessary) and with buying mack diamond warranty which adds $200 or so, I cant afford $380 for the grip, so I have to see when 3rd party offers come.

btw, you shoot video ever with your gear?

I do not shoot much video at all, sorry.

I hear you about the grip and I have them on my D610 and D7100 all the time. One thing I've heard very little about in the reviews of this body is the change in ergonomics over the 600 series. Front to back the body is much thinner, and the battery is no longer stored in the grip but is now turned 90 degrees so it's completely in the back of the camera. This makes the grip portion slightly narrower and slightly deeper, and it's actually a much more secure feel in your hand when held that way.

 

[Browncoat]

DxOMark is the trusted industry standard for camera and lens independent image quality measurements and ratings. For years we have established our reputation for the best:

• Rigorous hardware testing
• Industry-grade laboratory tools
• Database of thousands of camera-lens test results

DxOMark consists of a comprehensive RAW-based image quality measurement database and a set of scores used to evaluate and compare digital cameras and lenses.

DxOMark is a 100% commercial (aka for-profit) enterprise that sells software. They come across as a completely unbiased source for technical data that, lo and behold...uses their very own software for testing. And people find this to be a credible source of information?

This would be like Goodyear sponsoring a race and then posting results that show the top finishers were using Goodyear tires. Well...duh? Good grief, if Ken Rockwell ever partnered with DxO, the internet would explode.

 

[Nero]

DxOMark is a 100% commercial (aka for-profit) enterprise that sells software. They come across as a completely unbiased source for technical data that, lo and behold...uses their very own software for testing. And people find this to be a credible source of information?

This would be like Goodyear sponsoring a race and then posting results that show the top finishers were using Goodyear tires. Well...duh? Good grief, if Ken Rockwell ever partnered with DxO, the internet would explode.

I don't think I'd be able to count how many times he'd link to their software in every article he writes. If you can even call what he does "writing".

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[STM]

I might consider getting a D750 but the deal killer for me is that eyepiece. I use my Nikon DR-5 right angle finder quite a bit when doing macro because it has both a 1x or 2x magnification. It screws into the eyepiece which is not an option with the D750.

 

[Whiskeyman]

I might consider getting a D750 but the deal killer for me is that eyepiece. I use my Nikon DR-5 right angle finder quite a bit when doing macro because it has both a 1x or 2x magnification. It screws into the eyepiece which is not an option with the D750.

I'll bet that Nikon counted on the articulating rear screen to negate the need for the right-angle adapter, if they thought about it that much.

On paper, er, on the monitor, I'm not seeing enough in the D750 to make it a "must have it now" camera, although I like what I'm hearing about its low light capabilities. When I got to hold one of them, though, I didn't want to let it go.

And suffice it to say, I trust what most of the people on Nikonites say about a product over what DXO has to say about it. Do I ignore it? No. But it and other reviewers are just one of several tools in a toolbox to figure out some equipment.

WM

 

[BackdoorArts]

For anyone still interested, I just did a series of exposures from 800 to 25600, JPEG and RAW, and all I can say is, "Poppycock!!" (I love that word!!)

Not a chance in hell that the D750 and D610 are the same, at least after getting through the processing engine. More in my full review coming out once I figure out the best way to present it, but suffice it to say here is ISO 12800 (at 100% crop in LR, screen capture reduced to 1000px for broadcast....)

 

[Blacktop]

The Clapton and the Stevie Ray book side by side. :encouragement::encouragement: This warrants 2 thumbs up. (or are they the box sets?)

 

[BackdoorArts]

The Clapton and the Stevie Ray book side by side. :encouragement::encouragement: This warrants 2 thumbs up. (or are they the box sets?)

This the shelf with all the CD box sets. Those two, and the slightly shorter and almost invisible Tom Waits package to their left, are more like large books. Makes it a PITA to fit on CD shelves.