Buyer Beware!!!

OwenCoop

Senior Member
I have been looking for a speedlight recently. With the time and the bits of money I've spent just should have grabbed an SB-700 on sale locally. Got a Nissin di466 - nice flash, no lcd and not compatible with the D5100 (since upgraded to the D7100). My daughter got the di466 for Christmas.
Bought a Neewer/Meike NW/MK910 on Amazon marketplace. It's not bad/not great - a cheap Chinese SB910 clone. Returned it and gave it an uncomplementary review on Amazon. So now the seller (Eshopic Canada) states that they never claimed that the flash was compatible with the D7100 (so I guess the D7100 is excluded from "all Nikon DSLRs"). When I called their bluff they changed their tune and wanted to be helpful. Too late!!!

So to just prove my masochistic tendencies I have ordered a Pixel X800N via Amazon from China.
Awaiting delivery any month now!
 

OwenCoop

Senior Member
Yeah! I'm starting to see things that way. I've read good things about the Pixel flashes but they don't apparently play so well with the YN-622s. Don't have any flash transmitter/receivers yet but may be headed in that direction.

Thank you Sir!
 

Moab Man

Senior Member
I hate Windows 10 and touch screen. What follows was typed in it's entirety and I brushed the screen and the freaking windows moved tiles because we've made computers into tablets and it dumped everything I typed. I hate Win Vista, 8, 8.1, and 10. They have effectively driven me to Mac and I hate them, but less. Loved Win 7.

Off my Windows gripe softbox and now retyping my reply to this thread and will be very careful to stay away from the d@&% touch screen.

My best Flash is the Nissin 866Di Mark II. This flash has a sub flash that virtually eliminated chin and eyes socket shadows when bounce flashing off the ceiling. The unit is amazing, easy to use, and has a little more punch than the SB900. Cost is a little over $300.

My second most powerful flash is the Yongnuo 560. It was gifted to me a couple weeks ago by my son. He had no idea what he was buying but this one was something he could afford at $65 and it was the highest rated in the realm of he could afford it. When I got it I figured well another flash to add to my bag isn't a bad thing, but had zero hopes for this dirt cheap flash.

The other night I had a shoot with a young man doing a snowboard shot. It was going to require two flash units and high speed sync. I went through each of my flash units to see how much light I could get out of each one at 1/500th f/5.6. Amazingly the Yong was my second brightest light behind the Nissin 866. My only complaint is that the interaction with this flash is backwards as crap. Usually a green go light means the flash is ready and red stop means the unit is charging. On the Yong the green go is stop and the red charging is actually go. The menu of other options is just plain goofy as well, but at $65 I will learn. At this price I could have a whole army of units versus what I paid for my Nissin 866. The 866 is still the better flash clearly, but for the majority of applications I don't need a flash to be the best but simply flash.

So to Don's point, consider the Yongnuo line. I was very impressed and can vouch for the Yong 560. The Yong 622 transmitters will trigger the flash but I have to manually control the flash output from the unit itself even though I have the transmitter controller.

Yong is doing the backlighting.
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Marcel

Happily retired
Staff member
Super Mod
I hate Windows 10 and touch screen. What follows was typed in it's entirety and I brushed the screen and the freaking windows moved tiles because we've made computers into tablets and it dumped everything I typed. I hate Win Vista, 8, 8.1, and 10. They have effectively driven me to Mac and I hate them, but less. Loved Win 7.

Off my Windows gripe softbox and now retyping my reply to this thread and will be very careful to stay away from the d@&% touch screen.

My best Flash is the Nissin 866Di Mark II. This flash has a sub flash that virtually eliminated chin and eyes socket shadows when bounce flashing off the ceiling. The unit is amazing, easy to use, and has a little more punch than the SB900. Cost is a little over $300.

My second most powerful flash is the Yongnuo 560. It was gifted to me a couple weeks ago by my son. He had no idea what he was buying but this one was something he could afford at $65 and it was the highest rated in the realm of he could afford it. When I got it I figured well another flash to add to my bag isn't a bad thing, but had zero hopes for this dirt cheap flash.

The other night I had a shoot with a young man doing a snowboard shot. It was going to require two flash units and high speed sync. I went through each of my flash units to see how much light I could get out of each one at 1/500th f/5.6. Amazingly the Yong was my second brightest light behind the Nissin 866. My only complaint is that the interaction with this flash is backwards as crap. Usually a green go light means the flash is ready and red stop means the unit is charging. On the Yong the green go is stop and the red charging is actually go. The menu of other options is just plain goofy as well, but at $65 I will learn. At this price I could have a whole army of units versus what I paid for my Nissin 866. The 866 is still the better flash clearly, but for the majority of applications I don't need a flash to be the best but simply flash.

So to Don's point, consider the Yongnuo line. I was very impressed and can vouch for the Yong 560. The Yong 622 transmitters will trigger the flash but I have to manually control the flash output from the unit itself even though I have the transmitter controller.

Yong is doing the backlighting.
View attachment 191826

Great shot by the way.
 

Iansky

Senior Member
I have to also endorse the Yongnuo 560 Mk3, they are really powerful units and the built in RC slave makes shooting easy - the power is spot on and I have used mine without issue so far on my Nikon / Olympus / Fuji cameras - great value for money!
 

OwenCoop

Senior Member
Great food for thought - Thanks! The good thing about Amazon is the good return policy. The Pixel has been shipped so hopefully it does the job. If not then Yongnuo here I come! In this part of the world all I can buy locally for a speedlight (Nikon) is Nikon or Metz. And forget the Metz because they are as pricey here as the Nikon equivalent.

Amazon on this side of the 49th parallel has the 560 III for @ $80 Cdn and the IV for $95-ish.

This has become a speedlight thread. I may move it over to the Flash category if this thread continue.
 

OwenCoop

Senior Member
... And Marcel I totally agree with you on Windows. Trying to stay with Windows 7 as long as possible. Microsoft is trying to pull an Adobe on us and then some. They are offering us free upgrades to Windows 10. Look out next summer as they will most likely start charging a subscription fee for Windows.
I had one Asus laptop running OS X Yosemite for awhile. Everything was working except the sound (headphones only) and screen brightness/contrast controls. Microsoft may force me to go that way permanently yet.
 

480sparky

Senior Member
I used that for a long time but Windows 10 does not need it. They have the old style start button and home screen. I really like Win 10


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I won't touch Win 10 with a ten-foot pole (pun intended). Too many of my apps aren't compatible or won't be upgraded to be. I'll stick with 8.1 and go merrily on my way through life. :)
 
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