Sorry I don't know myself. Can anyone else answer J-see's question please?
best photo processing software for newbie
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Sorry I don't know myself. Can anyone else answer J-see's question please?
Horoscope Fish
Senior Member
I'm 99.999% sure it doesn't.
Paintshop Pro X7 has options for layers and blend modes but I don't know how, exactly, they work in comparison to to using an Adobe product; nor do I know if PSPX7t supports 16-bit files. It's just something that might be worth looking into if you haven't already.
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I don't mind that the program would work separately. It would require exporting in LR and then selecting the map and loading in the other program but that's not that much of a problem. It's only for shots I have to merge to get all parts as required. Like one I posted in Low light today. I have to shoot one at 100 ISO as normal and a second shot at 6400 ISO to get the star lights and then merge both.
If they don't support 16bit or LR's color profiles, that would be a different issue.
BackdoorArts
Senior Member
I just created a 16-bit TIF from D7100 NEF file using ACR and then successfully opened it using PSE 11. If version 11 can handle it then I would assume the latest version should. My understanding is the PSE has allowed you to open 16-bit tiffs for a while now. Some of the Filter effects will not be available to you unless you convert it to 8-bit color...
16-bit
8-bit
...but that may or may not impact you.
16-bit
8-bit
...but that may or may not impact you.
Thanks, that's exactly the info I needed. 16bit TiFF and blending would be all I need and if PSE can provide that at a fraction of the price of a standalone PS, I'll know what to order next.
BackdoorArts
Senior Member
If you can do it in PSE11 you can likely do it in PSE13. Download the free trial and have at it first, though, just to be sure.
I just downloaded the trial and am installing it now on my windows. That system is at its end so it doesn't matter that I'm installing all those trial versions. If it works as well as I hope, I order the Mac version.
All I need now is a portable monitor preferably powered through USB. It doesn't need to be that great in quality if I can set it up in such a manner it displays my tools while I do the actual manipulations on the Retina.
Horoscope Fish
Senior Member
Just to clarify my previous statement... I have no doubt PS Elements will *open* 16-bit files but I don't believe it will allow you EDIT (or save) them in anything but 8-bti mode. Again, I could be wrong, and I sort of hope I am... But if doing actual editing in 16-bit mode is important to you, be sure to investigate what you can actually DO with those files while in PSE.
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hatlesschimp
Senior Member
Lightroom is awesome! I'm new to photography and it has the ability to do things I never thought possible.
Don't think just get lightroom.
Don't think just get lightroom.
BackdoorArts
Senior Member
This is interesting, because I know that when I checked this I duplicated a layer and played with blend modes. But, I just tried it again and indeed you cannot add a second layer (with PSE11) while in 16-bit TIFF. You can do basic adjustments, but you cannot do anything with layers. My bad. I must have tried that when I was in 8-bit mode.
I just tried and I can import 16bit TiFFs but when I copy the one to add to the other, PSE forces me to go to 8bit.
I'll have to play with it some more to see what it can do. I find it easiest if I can just use the same format/bit/color profile throughout applications. Constantly changing those might lead to undesired results.
I'll check for some other programs but I fear that in the end, only the expensive option will be left.
I'll have to play with it some more to see what it can do. I find it easiest if I can just use the same format/bit/color profile throughout applications. Constantly changing those might lead to undesired results.
I'll check for some other programs but I fear that in the end, only the expensive option will be left.
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Horoscope Fish
Senior Member
The "core" issue with PSE is that Adobe considers working in 16-bit mode a "professional"... option, I guess, for lack of a better word and PSE is not aimed at professionals.
You know the drill: If you wants to play, you gots to pay.
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The "core" issue with PSE is that Adobe considers working in 16-bit mode a "professional"... option, I guess, for lack of a better word and PSE is not aimed at professionals.
You know the drill: If you wants to play, you gots to pay.
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Isn't it: 'If you want to work like the elite, you got to bleed"?
I gave PSE another run and when copying a second image to a layer, it converts that to 8bit but I didn't see if the background was converted too. I used blending and saved it as a TiFF but here too there was no option to specify bit-size. When I checked the file size, the new one was 51Mb while both originals are 100Mb so I guess it can process and save as 8bit only.
Unless I find an alternative, PS it will be but if, I better wait a while since they might release another version in the near future.