Astrophotography gear?

Moab Man

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@hark

I have no problem with you jumping in and do not take ANY offense. This is a learning community. The only time it bothers me is when intellectual learning conversation degrades into a pissing contest. So please, don't hold back.

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Moab Man

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[MENTION=44173]Yan Lauzon[/MENTION]

can you please explain to Yan as to why an f/2.8 lens is preferred over f/3.5? Since I've never taken any long exposures like these require, it would help him make an informed decision. If he chooses to go with some type of wide lens that isn't as fast as an f/2.8 lens, he will get an idea of what he is sacrificing. Thanks!

The fastest glass you can afford is a two fold benefit. First, You're trying to collect light that is ever so faint. Add to it, DX sensors have more ISO noise than full frame so the more light you can get is a shorter exposure and less noise.

Second, exposure time. The longer you have to have the shutter open the more star movement (star trails) you have. It is a fine balancing act between long enough to collect enough light, but not too long to get noticeable movement, and not having to crank up the ISO to create a noisy image. It's like a waiter carrying a very full tray on one hand. When it's all balanced out it works well. Get it wrong and it all crashed down.
 

Moab Man

Senior Member
Moon Photography
Moon photography is often done poorly in that it's too often blown out. When shooting the moon you want to be exposing for the moon, spot exposure metering. If you meter for the moon and all of the black of the sky it will blow out the moon. You will be surprised at how fast your shutter speed is.

When shooting the moon use your histogram to make sure you are not blowing it out.
 

Yan Lauzon

Senior Member
Moon Photography
Moon photography is often done poorly in that it's too often blown out. When shooting the moon you want to be exposing for the moon, spot exposure metering. If you meter for the moon and all of the black of the sky it will blow out the moon. You will be surprised at how fast your shutter speed is.

When shooting the moon use your histogram to make sure you are not blowing it out.
I did a try at the moon with my kit 55-200mm and had difficulty focusing right. (to my defense, it was -35 and was freezing so I didn't try super long, plus cloud went in the way while I was setting up)



I had issues getting bright enough, but not too bright. I realize I could have tried histogram to help this out, thanks for the idea, I'll try that as soon as I get a cloudless moon again.

Here's one of the better shots. The moon lights too much on some area and trying to tone it down wasn't easy.

Should we aim for large aperture, or small aperture? What would be the best approach?


I figure I need at least 500mm to try and get where I want to, zoom-wise. There are mirror lens about that size, reminds me of Schmidt Casgrain telescope... Any good for moon pictures?
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Moab Man

Senior Member
What is the exif data on your moon photo. It doesn't look in focus and you're shooting through a cloud. You can use the edge of the moon to get focus.
 

Yan Lauzon

Senior Member
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Here's another try. Is the exif visible now?

I was trying to focus on the moon, didn't think to use the border. Good idea. I realize it's hard to focus to infinity with this lens, I'll have to give this a few more try to get better at it.

Ideally without clouds next time. They spooked in while I was setting up. :(
 
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Moab Man

Senior Member
Next time set your camera at Shutter priority and your ISO to auto. Take a shot and see what it looks like. Your shutter speed was way to slow.
 

Dawg Pics

Senior Member
Shooting the moon is like shooting a light bulb. If you look at the moon with a telescope and don't put a moon filter on, when you look away, you will see spots. Ha

I started by looking at a few images I liked and used the EXIF data provided to start. Then I did some adjustments from there. It just kind of gives an idea of what is happening with shutter, aperture and ISO for different shooters.

Take a look at this one shot with a D3200.

https://nikonites.com/low-light-and-night/2361-moon-shots-18.html#post221277
 

hark

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Super Mod
Yan, since you mentioned wanting to photograph the next eclipse, keep watch of solar filters or read up on how to make your own. Moab Man said he created one himself. From what I've seen, solar filters tend to be around 15.5 stops (the sun's rays are too intense for sensors). You can also stack a couple of ND filters as long as they total at least 15.5 stops. If you don't use a filter when photographing the sun, then most likely you will damage your sensor.

Filters specifically designed for solar images really would be your best bet. They may contain specific solar filtering that general ND filters lack.

Here is the thread from last year's eclipse: https://nikonites.com/general-photo...se-shots.html?highlight=eclipse#axzz58sgIYTyK
 

Yan Lauzon

Senior Member
Thanks Hark. I plan on getting a solar filter. That's why I am starting to get geared up a few years ahead, that way I should have time to get all I need...

Moab Man stated some "solar filters" of non-brands aren't what they pose to be, and cause issues, so I'll focus on getting something reliable. DIY or pre-made. I guess the first step is to get the lens to mount it on.
 
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Dawg Pics

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Thanks Hark. I plan on getting a solar filter. That's why I am starting to get geared up a few years ahead, that way I should have time to get all I need...

Moab Man stated some "solar filters" of non-brands aren't what they pose to be, and cause issues, so I'll focus on getting something reliable. DIY or pre-made. I guess the first step is to get the lens to mount it on.

There were a bunch of people selling faked solar viewers on Amazon. They were even clever enough to fake the standards on the cardboard.
Baader products are reliable if they are purchased from an authorized dealer.
 

Yan Lauzon

Senior Member
I have read a lot about reflex lens and still am unsure of what to think. There are rather affordable mirror 500mm lens out there that I think would be interesting for moon and/or sun/eclipse shots.

Some say they are great for such shots, with their aperture and low chromatic aberration; while others say they can't be as sharp (although I have seen rather nice moon shots with at least one of them so I guess it depends on the lens)

Anyone has hands on experience on these that could comment please?
 

Yan Lauzon

Senior Member
Here's a shot of the moon with my 70-300

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And that is a tentative of a shot of Mars with the same. 300mm ain't big enough, I will definitely need bigger.

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