Another myth to debunk about Canada

what do you get when you play country music backwards???
​you gdt your truck back, you get your dog back, you get your girl back..... Lol:). Hmmm, you mean that you dont climb through the driver side window to get in yer car? Is there no boss hog?? You have burst my bubble:(

Surprisingly we have one of the best professional regional theater facilities in the country and is known world wide for their performances.

History | Alabama Shakespeare Festival And that is in Alabama
 

Carolina Photo Guy

Senior Member
This "culture" is also ingrained in your Bill of Rights; Second Amendment to the Constitution. This makes the US somewhat unique as compared to other democracies.

All kidding aside, I am very proud to be an American. What I am most proud of about this country is that whenever ANY other country has a natural disaster, we are the first to offer aid and assistance. No strings. The people of the U.S. usually collect a few million in donations, again completely without conditions.
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riverside

Senior Member
This "culture" is also ingrained in your Bill of Rights; Second Amendment to the Constitution. This makes the US somewhat unique as compared to other democracies.

Agreed. I've lived in a lot of US states and found US gun ownership, the general public with collectors and gun nuts aside, is sharply divided by political ideology and of course cultural ancestry. Conservatives generally support and practice gun ownership while liberals frown on it. As the country is roughly equally divided by major political party affiliation, my experience has been:

Rural areas - Most everyone has gun(s) regardless of political ideology. Even an ardent pacifist will blast away at a coyote, fox or bum (I know, the politically correct term is homeless) scaring the chickens, livestock or raiding the garden and disturbing their food production patterns.

Semi-rural areas - So many former metropolitan baby boomers have retired in "rural" areas close to cities it's pretty much a mixed bag.

Metropolitan areas - The crush of earning a living doesn't leave much mental space for self-protection in good neighborhoods where LE or private security is charged with responsibility of such matters. Slum dwellers, sorry, the disadvantaged, can't really afford guns unless part of their generally illegal vocations.

Major cities - A far lower rate of gun ownership than any of the preceding areas with the same societal division as metro areas.

Cosmopolitan cities - We only have two, San Francisco and NYC and I've resided in both. I experienced a surprisingly high rate of personal gun ownership for self-protection with a wide range of business and personal acquaintances/friends. Both have the the same societal separations as metro/major cities but the sense of reality and intellectual depth was far different. Almost rural regarding guns.
 
We were in the process of refinancing out house recently to take advantage of the lower rates and as part of that we had to have the house appraised. My son was down the weekend before and had to remind us to get all the guns out of site before the appraiser came. 12 gauge by the front door, 9mm on my bedside table, 22 on my wife's side of the bed and a couple others sitting around. That is fairly common in the south granted we don't have a lot of liberals around here. It is just something we have all grown up with and frankly enjoy. For Christmas last year we went to visit my wife's brother who lives way out in the country in north Alabama. It was a pretty warm day so we decided that we would go out and shoot for a while. We had just about anything you would want to shoot and had a great time shooing everything from Walther P22s all the way up to Fully tricked out AR15s. I think a lot of it just comes from how you grew up and where you live.
 

Dave_W

The Dude
Agreed. I've lived in a lot of US states and found US gun ownership, the general public with collectors and gun nuts aside, is sharply divided by political ideology and of course cultural ancestry. Conservatives generally support and practice gun ownership while liberals frown on it. As the country is roughly equally divided by major political party affiliation, my experience has been:

Rural areas - Most everyone has gun(s) regardless of political ideology. Even an ardent pacifist will blast away at a coyote, fox or bum (I know, the politically correct term is homeless) scaring the chickens, livestock or raiding the garden and disturbing their food production patterns.

Semi-rural areas - So many former metropolitan baby boomers have retired in "rural" areas close to cities it's pretty much a mixed bag.

Metropolitan areas - The crush of earning a living doesn't leave much mental space for self-protection in good neighborhoods where LE or private security is charged with responsibility of such matters. Slum dwellers, sorry, the disadvantaged, can't really afford guns unless part of their generally illegal vocations.

Major cities - A far lower rate of gun ownership than any of the preceding areas with the same societal division as metro areas.

Cosmopolitan cities - We only have two, San Francisco and NYC and I've resided in both. I experienced a surprisingly high rate of personal gun ownership for self-protection with a wide range of business and personal acquaintances/friends. Both have the the same societal separations as metro/major cities but the sense of reality and intellectual depth was far different. Almost rural regarding guns.

That's a nicely written synopsis on guns and America. One thing I'd like to add is that gun ownership cuts across both sides of the political spectrum. A little heavier cut on the right than the left but both sides are strong believers in the 2nd amendment and both sides enjoy owning guns. There really is no gap between sides on the sanctity of the 2nd amendment, it seems the gap lies more in what is and isn't protected under this amendment. But even here in California (aka - The Peoples Republic of California) there are many very liberal, very granola-esq people who really enjoy blowing things up with their guns and are more than a little bothered by the assumption that being liberal means you do not believe in guns.
 
That's a nicely written synopsis on guns and America. One thing I'd like to add is that gun ownership cuts across both sides of the political spectrum. A little heavier cut on the right than the left but both sides are strong believers in the 2nd amendment and both sides enjoy owning guns. There really is no gap between sides on the sanctity of the 2nd amendment, it seems the gap lies more in what is and isn't protected under this amendment. But even here in California (aka - The Peoples Republic of California) there are many very liberal, very granola-esq people who really enjoy blowing things up with their guns and are more than a little bothered by the assumption that being liberal means you do not believe in guns.

All we see are the militant liberals in Washington right now that are so anti-gun and I would have to agree that they are probably not representative of the majority of liberals anymore.
 

JudeIscariot

Senior Member
Agreed. I've lived in a lot of US states and found US gun ownership, the general public with collectors and gun nuts aside, is sharply divided by political ideology and of course cultural ancestry. Conservatives generally support and practice gun ownership while liberals frown on it. As the country is roughly equally divided by major political party affiliation, my experience has been:

Rural areas - Most everyone has gun(s) regardless of political ideology. Even an ardent pacifist will blast away at a coyote, fox or bum (I know, the politically correct term is homeless) scaring the chickens, livestock or raiding the garden and disturbing their food production patterns.

Semi-rural areas - So many former metropolitan baby boomers have retired in "rural" areas close to cities it's pretty much a mixed bag.

Metropolitan areas - The crush of earning a living doesn't leave much mental space for self-protection in good neighborhoods where LE or private security is charged with responsibility of such matters. Slum dwellers, sorry, the disadvantaged, can't really afford guns unless part of their generally illegal vocations.

Major cities - A far lower rate of gun ownership than any of the preceding areas with the same societal division as metro areas.

Cosmopolitan cities - We only have two, San Francisco and NYC and I've resided in both.
Chicago would like to speak to you about that.
 

JudeIscariot

Senior Member
That's a nicely written synopsis on guns and America. One thing I'd like to add is that gun ownership cuts across both sides of the political spectrum. A little heavier cut on the right than the left but both sides are strong believers in the 2nd amendment and both sides enjoy owning guns. There really is no gap between sides on the sanctity of the 2nd amendment, it seems the gap lies more in what is and isn't protected under this amendment. But even here in California (aka - The Peoples Republic of California) there are many very liberal, very granola-esq people who really enjoy blowing things up with their guns and are more than a little bothered by the assumption that being liberal means you do not believe in guns.
I agree with this. The problem is often that the loudest people on the issue are on the right.

Look at what the NRA has become - they are no longer simply a gun rights advocate, but a right-wing shill organization. In the last election, they were pro-Romney and anti-Obama, even though at that point, Obama specifically had granted MORE gun rights in his active history as a politician (allowing loaded & carry in Federal parks) while Romney had signed an assault weapons ban when he was governor in MA. After the Newtown tragedy, assault weapons bans were introduced, and the NRA pounced on the issue as unAmerican... But where were they during the election? Supporting the guy who had actually signed one of them before...

This is why there is an identified division between the parties - because the loudest organization for guns is basically a right-wing organization in general.

The other issue is, as basically what riverside posted - you'll see less guns in more urban areas. And what party do the more urban areas heavily vote for? The Democratic party, thus further marking the division.

(And before anybody asks or makes any assumptions, I don't care about either of those bozos that ran for President. I'm just dealing in facts.)
 

riverside

Senior Member
That's a nicely written synopsis on guns and America. One thing I'd like to add is that gun ownership cuts across both sides of the political spectrum. A little heavier cut on the right than the left but both sides are strong believers in the 2nd amendment and both sides enjoy owning guns. There really is no gap between sides on the sanctity of the 2nd amendment, it seems the gap lies more in what is and isn't protected under this amendment. But even here in California (aka - The Peoples Republic of California) there are many very liberal, very granola-esq people who really enjoy blowing things up with their guns and are more than a little bothered by the assumption that being liberal means you do not believe in guns.

For California I'd think that's a cultural rather than political ideology aspect. Ask most Californians about their genealogy and quite often there's rural or Southern influence not too many generations past. I currently reside in Oregon, a democrat stronghold which is primarily populated by former Californians, and can't remember how many times former Californians have commented on Oregon's "realistic" social and government attitudes regarding guns in general.

While currently being flushed down the drain en masse, constitutional rights do retain importance to those aware of them regardless of political affiliation.
 

Nathan Lanni

Senior Member
...could care less about NASCAR. Turn left, Turn left. boring. And although I have zero problem with hunting I don't hunt either. Hunting is fine as long as the meat is eaten and not just wasted. I don't like to see that.


I've loved auto racing from the womb, but I like cars that can turn left and right. European racing is best because there not afraid of the rain. Grew up hunting, but never had a taste for it; maybe it was the Bambi movie. But if it came to survival that's another story.

I don't put much stock in gross generalizations. I've found that once you bite into one nice and juicy social myth someone just has to be an exception and spoil the party. :)

It doesn't surprise me that Canadians have firearms, in fact it would be really strange if they didn't - the instinctive need for protection is a universal human trait.
 
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