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FastGlass

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I would have considered shooting this at you're widest aperture setting being its a poor lit room. It would have also gave more attention to the main subjects.
If the ceilings were white then I would have choose to bounce the flash.
 

hark

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I tried 2 different, quick tweaks to the photo. If you choose to edit in a similar fashion to one of these methods, you might choose slightly different levels of adjustment. These are just to show you 2 different results. Each edit took literally a few seconds, but my intent was to try and closely match the skin tones of the bride and groom in both photos. Personally I prefer the first.

In this first, I adjusted the overall brightness of the photo to 100 in PSE 10. IMHO, it comes across more the way flash would with some slightly noticeable flash falloff in the background and is more indicative of a photo shot with flash.


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And in this one, instead of adjusting the brightness, I chose to lightenen the shadows by 24% in PSE 10. The increase affects the overall photo and doesn't show nearly the amount of light falloff as the above photo.

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Marilynne

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I tried 2 different, quick tweaks to the photo. If you choose to edit in a similar fashion to one of these methods, you might choose slightly different levels of adjustment. These are just to show you 2 different results. Each edit took literally a few seconds.

In this first, I adjusted the overall brightness of the photo to 100 in PSE 10. IMHO, it comes across more the way flash would with some slightly noticeable flash falloff in the background and is more indicative of a photo shot with flash.


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I like this one.
 

wud

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Maybe you could save this shot with a little more post processing, but I think your flash wasn't powerful enough for the working distance. The shot seems to miss exposure. And you're right about keeping a certain aperture to get the DOF but the only way to have it it to use a more powerful flash when working from a certain distance. Remember that light fall off very fast as soon as the distance gets bigger. I used to know the formula but I think it's Light= flash power/distance x distance.

But when using flash, how do you get rid of this flash-glare? It shows even more, when people are sweating.



I would have considered shooting this at you're widest aperture setting being its a poor lit room. It would have also gave more attention to the main subjects.
If the ceilings were white then I would have choose to bounce the flash.

Think you are right. But last I used f/2.8 and couldn't get both sharp in the same image, as its not possible to stand in front of them (the man/lady marrying them for some reason wants that spot ;)). But maybe I overdid a bit lol.

I did bounce the flash but the sealings arent white, so I didn't turn the flash all the way back.

I tried 2 different, quick tweaks to the photo. If you choose to edit in a similar fashion to one of these methods, you might choose slightly different levels of adjustment. These are just to show you 2 different results. Each edit took literally a few seconds, but my intent was to try and closely match the skin tones of the bride and groom in both photos. Personally I prefer the first.

In this first, I adjusted the overall brightness of the photo to 100 in PSE 10. IMHO, it comes across more the way flash would with some slightly noticeable flash falloff in the background and is more indicative of a photo shot with flash.


View attachment 52384

And in this one, instead of adjusting the brightness, I chose to lightenen the shadows by 24% in PSE 10. The increase affects the overall photo and doesn't show nearly the amount of light falloff as the above photo.

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Yes! Thats a lot lot lot better.
Its still not perfect, I'm not sure if I'll ever get happy with this brownish background.

Still some flash-glare are shown (maybe its more clear to me, when I look at the large image), but maybe its the way it has to be?
 

hark

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This will be darker overall, but I tried to cut back on the shiny skin. I used the photo where I lightened the shadows by 24%. Then I darkened the highlights by 12%. Since you didn't like the browns that showed up in the background, I used the burn tool and darkened midtones in the tapestry/background wall by 20%. Just trying to find quick solutions because if you have a lot of photos to edit, you won't want to spend a lot of time doing them individually.


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wud

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Tried the edit from start again, with all your help in mind:

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Colors still hurt my eyes though, and personally I would prefer b/w, but I dont know if they are that kind of people. And somehow I think ceremony needs to be in colors.


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hark

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Tried the edit from start again, with all your help in mind:

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Colors still hurt my eyes though, and personally I would prefer b/w, but I dont know if they are that kind of people. And somehow I think ceremony needs to be in colors.


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Since you cropped the original image, this doesn't look nearly as colorful as the original (referencing your comment about not liking the colors). If you were going to do this image in black and white, my preference would be to see it slightly lighter in tone overall.

I think you've gotten the hang of it. Good luck with processing the rest of your images! Maybe you can share some of them with us when you are finished! :)
 

Marcel

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Tried the edit from start again, with all your help in mind:
Colors still hurt my eyes though, and personally I would prefer b/w, but I dont know if they are that kind of people. And somehow I think ceremony needs to be in colors.

Post processing is much better on this one. I just noticed that the thing that hurts me a little is their positions. When doing the first kiss picture during the ceremony I always placed myself so I could get both of them in profile (sometimes I had to go behind the celebrant). I find that his nose creates a weird combination with her profile.
Just an observation so you can look at other angles in your next wedding.
 

wud

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Since you cropped the original image, this doesn't look nearly as colorful as the original (referencing your comment about not liking the colors). If you were going to do this image in black and white, my preference would be to see it slightly lighter in tone overall.

I think you've gotten the hang of it. Good luck with processing the rest of your images! Maybe you can share some of them with us when you are finished! :)

Thank you so much for your help, I got a better feeling about what to do, yes. I will show some of the pictures in here, of course :)

Post processing is much better on this one. I just noticed that the thing that hurts me a little is their positions. When doing the first kiss picture during the ceremony I always placed myself so I could get both of them in profile (sometimes I had to go behind the celebrant). I find that his nose creates a weird combination with her profile.
Just an observation so you can look at other angles in your next wedding.

Great observation! Will defiantly try to sneak a better position for the kiss next time. But its very crowded, most guest are standing behind the celebrant (didn't know that was the name), like I was. Weird place, but I'll nail it someday :)
 

Marcel

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Great observation! Will defiantly try to sneak a better position for the kiss next time. But its very crowded, most guest are standing behind the celebrant (didn't know that was the name), like I was. Weird place, but I'll nail it someday :)

Don't be shy about getting in front of guests. You are paid to do a job and you got to do what you've got to do. As long as you're polite and courteous, people will understand that you're just doing a good job.
 

wud

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Btw, listened 50% to Don, so heres the final crop for this image, lol:

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And a few more. A fun challenge for myself, doing dog pictures in the middle of the city. But very fun, and I hope someone else will wanna get some too:

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wud

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Don't be shy about getting in front of guests. You are paid to do a job and you got to do what you've got to do. As long as you're polite and courteous, people will understand that you're just doing a good job.

Not shy at all, and I was all the way in front. And people were really sweet, giving space with a big smile :)
 

brads

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Thats fixable :) But I still think the image are weird.

I wonder if you think it's 'weird' because of the paintings in the background. Painted people and real people can be a bit messy or confusing perhaps. Highlighting the main subjects may be all it needs. Just my thoughts. Cheers, Brad :)
 

wud

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I wonder if you think it's 'weird' because of the paintings in the background. Painted people and real people can be a bit messy or confusing perhaps. Highlighting the main subjects may be all it needs. Just my thoughts. Cheers, Brad :)

I think you got a point with the paitings. So making another crop, made the picture more about the couple kissing, and my eyes dont go back and forth between all the other stuff going on.
 
Maybe you could save this shot with a little more post processing, but I think your flash wasn't powerful enough for the working distance. The shot seems to miss exposure. And you're right about keeping a certain aperture to get the DOF but the only way to have it it to use a more powerful flash when working from a certain distance. Remember that light fall off very fast as soon as the distance gets bigger. I used to know the formula but I think it's Light= flash power/distance x distance.

The intensity of illumination is proportional to the inverse square of the distance from the light source

http://www.portraitlighting.net/inversesquare_law.htm
 

wud

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The intensity of illumination is proportional to the inverse square of the distance from the light source

http://www.portraitlighting.net/inversesquare_law.htm

I thought I were on the safe side, as I were 2 meters away from the couple. But this dark room takes a lot, I guess.

Well nothing to do but keep practicing with this flash. And learn from my mistakes.


Got a question about newborn photography today. A week ago, I asked one of my neighbors if I could photograph their kid when he's born, but he's not out yet, bad boy ;) So I wrote another friend with a 15 day old baby, I really wanna try this out, before saying yes to do it professionally. Interesting what can be done, with these tiny sizes. I am thinking very simple images.


And maybe tomorrow Im going to look at a place for rent, where maybe I could make a studio. Its a bit far away from me (dont have a car anymore), thats a bit annoying - but its right at the beach! I can only do this, if a few friends wanna do it with me, so we share the rent. Got 3 guys interested (2 of them are writers), so I am hoping xx.
 

wud

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So how is this?
I like the one where she makes a funny mouth the most, something is just better with the contrast on that one, but cannot get the other pictures the same.

I went to Lightroom, cause I figured out, that the flash gave most light on the upper half, so I used this gradient tool in LR, to brighten up the bottom. And then I used a little vignetting, lol, but it still helped with the light overall.

Also I lowered clarity on the skin.

 
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