Birders, Can You Help Me Identify a Bird?

Retro

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I was driving down Highway #46 in Essex County today, and a large bird flew overhead. I pulled over to look at it, but it was flying south over farm fields where I couldn't follow. By the time I got out of the vehicle and stood on the shoulder of the road it was 1,000' feet away, so I couldn't watch it anymore. The wing flap frequency was about 1 to 1.5 per second. This bird did not appear to be a glider, but it's flight seemed easy and graceful.

This bird was grey, and the wingspan was at least 5', maybe 6', and very straight from body to tip, like an eagle or owl wing. The wings were about 16" from front to back for the full length. There was no distinguishable curvature, like you see in a gull wing, and the wing tips were round. The 'finger' feathers were barely distinguishable. The head was short and inconspicuous.

Yes, this all sounds normal, but there was one distinction: the tail was about 16" to 18" long, and bulbous like a spindle turned on a lathe. I'll say 3" off the body, rounding up to 4", and then narrowing before a longer and more slender wide part, then narrowing toward the tip.

This picture of a chair spindle is pretty close to what the tail looked like:

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Just picture the bulb on the right to be round and a bit larger, and the wide part on the left a bit narrower. The tip also came to a point, unlike the spindle. I distorted this image to approximate the dimensions of the bird's tail.

I've never seen anything like this bird, either in person or in pictures. I have no idea what it was.
 

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Retro

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No idea, be easier with an actual photo.
I know. I had my Nikon with me, as well as a Canon PAS, but getting a shot was impossible. Even if I had been standing there with my camera in my hand I would have had only 3 or 4 seconds to get a shot. It was probably doing 20 miles per hour through the air.

I've looked through several pages of Google images searching 'largest birds of north america', 'eagles hawks falcons in flight', 'extinct birds', 'flying animals', etc., and I can't find a match. I don't think I've ever seen a bird so large. I know eagles can be as big, but I've never seen one as close as this. It was flying at about 100'. I hope I see it again.
 

Blacktop

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I know. I had my Nikon with me, as well as a Canon PAS, but getting a shot was impossible. Even if I had been standing there with my camera in my hand I would have had only 3 or 4 seconds to get a shot. It was probably doing 20 miles per hour through the air.

I've looked through several pages of Google images searching 'largest birds of north america', 'eagles hawks falcons in flight', 'extinct birds', 'flying animals', etc., and I can't find a match. I don't think I've ever seen a bird so large. I know eagles can be as big, but I've never seen one as close as this. It was flying at about 100'. I hope I see it again.

LOL. Why were you searching Google for extinct birds to identify a bird you just saw flying about?
 

Retro

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LOL. Why were you searching Google for extinct birds to identify a bird you just saw flying about?
Because I think people who declare animals to be extinct just because they have not been 'officially' observed by qualified persons are idiots! Such declarations are overrated.

Edit: I have little faith in 'scientific' conclusions. Newton was brilliant, and obviously correct in everything he said; but Einstein displaced him. Einstein also was very brilliant, and obviously correct in everything he said, but he'll be displaced by another scientist one day (he said it would happen). And we all know the ceolacanth is extinct. Scientists said so. They are always right.
 
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Blacktop

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Because I think people who declare animals to be extinct just because they have not been 'officially' observed by qualified persons are idiots! Such declarations are overrated.

Edit: I have little faith in 'scientific' conclusions. Newton was brilliant, and obviously correct in everything he said; but Einstein displaced him. Einstein also was very brilliant, and obviously correct in everything he said, but he'll be displaced by another scientist one day (he said it would happen). And we all know the ceolacanth is extinct. Scientists said so. They are always right.

Thanks for the science lesson. I was just expecting a quick "LOL" ,but this is ok as well.;)
 

J-see

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Because I think people who declare animals to be extinct just because they have not been 'officially' observed by qualified persons are idiots! Such declarations are overrated.

So I still can have a shot at the dodo if I search long enough?
 
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