New Nikon D610. Is this amount of sensor dirt normal?

Marcel

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Clarify....not after indoors shoots. But when I get outdoors I tend to shoot a lot, and in a lot of stuff to where pollen and things can make it into my camera.

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Yes, but on the sensor or inside the camera's chamber (without raising the mirror and opening the shutter)?
 

Deezey

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Yes, but on the sensor or inside the camera's chamber (without raising the mirror and opening the shutter)?




No. I only flip the mirror as needed. But I usually puff a couple shots of air after an outdoor shoot.

I only blow on the sensor if I notice I am retouching a lot of photos.





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Marcel

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No. I only flip the mirror as needed. But I usually puff a couple shots of air after an outdoor shoot.

I only blow on the sensor if I notice I am retouching a lot of photos.

This is what I thought but I wanted to be sure since doing a full sensor cleaning (or even blow) after each exterior shoot could even be counter-productive.
 

Rick M

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I don't think you'll find too many clean sensors tested at f20. I would at least try the blower and possibly a wet clean. I'll be some sensors pick up a little dust in manufacturing. At F20, those are some really fine spots.
 

Deezey

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I don't blow off the sensor until I start getting noticeable spots between f8-f16. Which is my normal range for landscapes.

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FastGlass

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My apologies for getting personal, but it seems every time someone has a spec somewhere on a D600/610 the sky begins to fall again. It's habitual on the internet where personal opinion becomes stated fact overnight with no verification when it gets passed on. So while you stated your opinion, if it sits uncorrected then it becomes someone else's gospel truth, and they talk about it on another thread. As a D600 with a camera that was fixed on the second go-around I've sat through a lot of nonsense about a pretty great camera that's now worth next to nothing - which is mainly Nikon's fault, but a lot has to do with the way in which things blew largely out of proportion. I'd hate to see the same thing happen needlessly to the D610, which by all reports seems to have kept all the great from the D600 and built on that. So pardon me for trying to keep perceptions in line, and not just for you but for those who would read your words and not think twice about repeating them.

I understand.
 

PhotoBob

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Things are now worse.

Most of the spots were removed by the blower, but there are now some new ones which won't budge. They're visible to the naked eye on the sensor but no amount of blowing will shift them.

Any suggestions?
 

Horoscope Fish

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Things are now worse.

Most of the spots were removed by the blower, but there are now some new ones which won't budge. They're visible to the naked eye on the sensor but no amount of blowing will shift them.

Any suggestions?
The next logical step would be a wet sensor-cleaning. You'll either have to learn to do this yourself using any one of a number of kits designed for the task, take your camera to a camera-repair shop to have the service performed or you can send it back to the Nikon "mother ship" to have it done done on your dime.

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hrphotography

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like i said before, get it exchanged thru seller asap before u run out of that first month. just like there were some "good" D600 (reported by some), there can be some "bad" D610 too.
 

BackdoorArts

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Just a few thoughts for everyone who is extremely careful when changing their lenses and always do it in a dust free environment. As was said, unless you're in an industrial clean room, there is no such thing as a dust free environment. That said, when you put a lens on your camera, what do you do with the end cap? If you're not mating it up with, say, a body cap, you've now got something sitting out, collecting dust, either on your desk/counter, or in your bag/pocket. Do you blow it out before putting it back on the lens? To you blow the lens and body out before mounting the next lens? Unless you're that fastidious, dust will get in your camera - and even if you are, dust gets in. Once it does, even with a blower there are often stubborn pieces. Learn to clean your camera!!

That said, if you can see something on the sensor stack that looks like it could be debris on a relatively new camera, get it checked by the dealer (one reason why having a local dealer is always a good thing). Stuff goes wrong from time to time with every camera model, so be proactive when you see something - but don't jump to conclusions and expect the worst. As I said in my first post, there's nothing I see in the dust photo that shows any kind of problem similar to the D600 issue (something I'm intimately familiar with) - but that doesn't mean that there isn't an unrelated issue with your specific camera.
 

PhotoBob

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I emailed Amazon.co.uk this AM at around 0900.

By 0930 they had ordered me a brand new D610 - it's despatched now and is due for delivery to me tomorrow.

I have 30 days to return the old camera and they've provided me with all the correct labelling including a label for 'lithium ion battery inside'.

They've said I should let them know immediately after posting exactly how much it cost me to do so and they will re-imburse me in full. I can use whichever courier I wish.

I think I'll use PhotoBob's Camera Courier service which charges £1000 per delivery!

I'm blown away by Amazon's customer service. Awesome. So glad I paid the extra over buying from a grey importer!

Thanks for all the help and support people!!

Next question, to backdoorhippie... I've tried to learn, but internet searches yield a mixed bag. Some makes use different surface coatings which can be damaged by different chemicals.

Recommend me a cleaning system and chemical option for the D610 and I'll order it.

TY!
 

hark

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I emailed Amazon.co.uk this AM at around 0900.

By 0930 they had ordered me a brand new D610 - it's despatched now and is due for delivery to me tomorrow.

I have 30 days to return the old camera and they've provided me with all the correct labelling including a label for 'lithium ion battery inside'.

They've said I should let them know immediately after posting exactly how much it cost me to do so and they will re-imburse me in full. I can use whichever courier I wish.

I think I'll use PhotoBob's Camera Courier service which charges £1000 per delivery!

I'm blown away by Amazon's customer service. Awesome. So glad I paid the extra over buying from a grey importer!

Thanks for all the help and support people!!

Next question, to backdoorhippie... I've tried to learn, but internet searches yield a mixed bag. Some makes use different surface coatings which can be damaged by different chemicals.

Recommend me a cleaning system and chemical option for the D610 and I'll order it.

TY!

Glad to hear this has been resolved! As Backdoor Hippie mentioned above, be sure you place your camera's body cap and the rear lens cap together so their backs aren't exposed to any possible dust/lint from inside your camera bag. I go an extra step further...after coupling them together, I put them inside a baggie. And as BDH said, blow off the rear lens element from time to time as well as blow off the backs of the rear lens caps and the body cap.

When I took some Abstract photos for the March photo contest, I saw a few spots that appeared between f/11 and f/16. Although I am always careful about changing lenses, it does happen. Below is an unedited photo--other than to resize and add the circled spots. None of these causes me any alarm. ;)

By the way, I don't know which rocket blower you ordered, but Giottos makes a good one that has a filter on its back end. That way it won't suck in any debris and blow it into the camera. The large and medium sizes are great. The small doesn't move much air at all though.

Amazon.com: giottos rocket blower
@BackdoorHippie, please note that PhotoBob asked for your opinion on wet cleaning solutions.


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BackdoorArts

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I use Sensor Swabs with the Eclipse solution for wet cleanings. I've also since picked up the Sensor Gel Stick from Photographylife.com. I've used that only once with mixed results, but it could be attributed to user error, so the jury is out. I've heard great things from folks who have used it to remove stubborn dust without wet cleaning, so I'm all for giving it another shot as it should prove much less expensive per cleaning since typically I'm using 1.5 swabs per wet clean at about $3/each.
 

Dave_W

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Another very easy step you can take is to never ever put your lens caps (or camera caps) in your pocket when changing lenses. Although I have no proof, I'd estimate that 75% or more of the normal dust that gets into your camera comes from dust deposited on your lens from the cap and then into your body from the lens. I keep a ziplock baggie around to place my caps in when I'm changing lenses and every few weeks or so I thoroughly clean the back plates of my lenses (you'd be surprised how dirty they get in a short amount of time). It's a simple change of habits that can go a long way in keeping those pesky spots out of your images.
 

Bluebear

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I use Sensor Swabs with the Eclipse solution for wet cleanings. I've also since picked up the Sensor Gel Stick from Photographylife.com. I've used that only once with mixed results, but it could be attributed to user error, so the jury is out. I've heard great things from folks who have used it to remove stubborn dust without wet cleaning, so I'm all for giving it another shot as it should prove much less expensive per cleaning since typically I'm using 1.5 swabs per wet clean at about $3/each.

I used the gel stick on my D600. I followed the instructions carefully but ended up with smudges on the sensor that the stick refused to shift. I ended up sending the camera to Nikon for a proper sensor clean. I'm now very wary about the gel stick!
 
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