SB-910 mucking around.

[Scott Murray]

Well tonight after a few rums I thought I would try a few shots with the SB-910 on my D800E with 90mm Macro Tamron.

As you will see I think, I am getting better softer light with the flash pointing 90deg with diffuser than 90deg with out.

With out diffuser, look at the harsh shadows under the bed.

With Diffuser, more forward spill light meaning less harsh shadow.

 

[Scott Murray]

Here are a few more examples with diffuser and flash pointing straight up.

As you can see there is some shadow but not much... And is easily eliminated if needed.

 

[Krs_2007]

So I have to ask, pics look good, but its more about the chosen toy for the white dog. How many golf balls does he/she go through.

At least your owners will sit long enough to take pictures, mine runs every time she hears me opening the bag.

 

[Scott Murray]

So I have to ask, pics look good, but its more about the chosen toy for the white dog. How many golf balls does he/she go through.

At least your owners will sit long enough to take pictures, mine runs every time she hears me opening the bag.

It all depends on how many golf balls land near or in the yard (we back on to the golf course). This is one from tonight so if its good quality should last him a few days. PS White dog is Zeus, English Staffordshire Bullterrier.

 

[Krs_2007]

Very good, glad to meet Zeus, if you were closer I have a stock pile of toys for him.... My sister in law has a GSP that loves pecans, craziest thing I have ever seen.

I was going to venture a guess on Zeus as being a PitBull.

What is the other dog Scott, looks familiar and I would guess a ridgeback, but not sure.

 

[Scott Murray]

Very good, glad to meet Zeus, if you were closer I have a stock pile of toys for him.... My sister in law has a GSP that loves pecans, craziest thing I have ever seen.

I was going to venture a guess on Zeus as being a PitBull.

What is the other dog Scott, looks familiar and I would guess a ridgeback, but not sure.

Kev I will PM my address ;-) for those toys lol.

Tank is a Bull Arab x Mastiff, I rescued him from his owner as he was moving OS and was going to put him down.

 

[Krs_2007]

I wouldn't have thought Mastiff, is he young ?

 

[Scott Murray]

I wouldn't have thought Mastiff, is he young ?

2 years old and 40kg.

 

[Scott Murray]

Probably has more Arab in his blood - Bull Arab - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[Krs_2007]

Hum, interesting, maybe lens perspective or my old eyes. His head looks narrow for a mastiff, oh well. Glad you rescued him, he looks very photogenic.

 

[Scott Murray]

Hum, interesting, maybe lens perspective or my old eyes. His head looks narrow for a mastiff, oh well. Glad you rescued him, he looks very photogenic.

The Bull Arab is an Australian dog purpose-bred primarily as a finder and lugger for wild boar hunting. They are also used for catching wild scrub bulls in outback Australia[SUP][citation needed][/SUP]. They are generally[SUP][which?][/SUP] a loyal dog. They were bred with the need to create a dog with enough size to stop large boars but with enough speed and stamina to outlast many of the other heavier mastiffs. The Bull Arab is not yet a registry-recognised breed of dog in Australia, though there are those that are working towards getting it recognized as such.

 

[Rick M]

Nice shots and beautiful dogs!

 

[WayneF]

Well tonight after a few rums I thought I would try a few shots with the SB-910 on my D800E with 90mm Macro Tamron.

As you will see I think, I am getting better softer light with the flash pointing 90deg with diffuser than 90deg with out.

With out diffuser, look at the harsh shadows under the bed.


With Diffuser, more forward spill light meaning less harsh shadow.

Maybe you had to be there and had the rum, but isn't it like this?

The domes are all too likely to obliterate the bounce lighting, and substitute direct spill. My notion is that the bounce card works a lot better.

 

[Scott Murray]

Nice shots and beautiful dogs!

Thanks Rick, I think I use flash better with a few alcoholic beverages than with none. But I also think that the advantage of the extra focal length of the macro makes a big difference in pet photography as they have a tendency to come towards you.

 

[Scott Murray]

Maybe you had to be there and had the rum, but isn't it like this?

The domes are all too likely to obliterate the bounce lighting, and substitute direct spill. My notion is that the bounce card works a lot better.

Yes thank you as thats the one with out the diffuser...

 

[Rick M]

Thanks Rick, I think I use flash better with a few alcoholic beverages than with none. But I also think that the advantage of the extra focal length of the macro makes a big difference in pet photography as they have a tendency to come towards you.

Yes, macro's have so much more versatility than they get credit for. They make an excellent mid-range telephoto, walk around and for situations like you described. Sometimes they are more versatile than a zoom.

 

[Scott Murray]

Well tonight after a few rums I thought I would try a few shots with the SB-910 on my D800E with 90mm Macro Tamron.

As you will see I think, I am getting better softer light with the flash pointing 90deg with diffuser than 90deg with out.



With Diffuser, more forward spill light meaning less harsh shadow.

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This is the one with the diffuser and flash at 90deg.

 

[WayneF]

Yes thank you as thats the one with out the diffuser...

Oops, I see now that is what you said... But then why the direct spill if 90 degrees up?

 

[Scott Murray]

Oops, I see now that is what you said... But then why the direct spill if 90 degrees up?

No idea but that is what I found, or maybe its not direct spill but with it being 90 deg it gives of shadow below the subject as the subject is more lightened on the top.... Eg like placing a flash directly above the subject pointing down. Or thinking of it the angle of the flash! As I think with no spill flash it give harsh under shadows.

I also think its not direct spill otherwise it would be behind the subject not underneath them.

 

[WayneF]

No idea but that is what I found, or maybe its not direct spill but with it being 90 deg it gives of shadow below the subject as the subject is more lightened on the top.... Eg like placing a flash directly above the subject pointing down. Or thinking of it the angle of the flash! As I think with no spill flash it give harsh under shadows.

I also think its not direct spill otherwise it would be behind the subject not underneath them.

Yeah, I am confused what it is too, esp seems unnatural if the flash was aimed up. If you could bounce, I assume it was not direct sunlight. And it is from the front anyway, not from above.

But a hot shoe flash is a few inches higher than the lens, and so direct flash does always make a shadow, yes mostly behind, but also "under" the subject due to those few inches of height. For example with the diffusion dome, see the sixth picture (diffusion dome) at Flash Fundamentals - What hot shoe flashes do . There, the bounce from above filled and lightened that direct spill shadow (instead of the intended other way around), but the spill is same as direct flash.

The bounce card shadow normally is not as dark and visible as direct spill from the dome, and is more than enough, especially to add catchlights in eyes (your second picture). We don't have to pull the bounce card all the way out.