D800 horrible noisy thing...argh

[Millie]

Well I always wanted one so I got one for christmas...I want the 36mp for my very wide shots ..the 10-20mm sigma on DX did not quite cut it ..

But ..what terrible controls Pro controls are slow controls.. and its so bl++dy noisy . Now if you got a D6100/7100 and you look at it ON or OFF you know if its in U1 A or whatever ..not this stupid thing ..you got to turn it on and fiddle in menus ABCD ?? ..No No bad move Nikon I notice Canon got a Knob on there FX

I got a 12-24mm Sigma but it was faulty ..all photo looked out of focus ..but my sigma 17-35 works fine but is not quite wide enough Samyang 14mm anybody ???

 

[Scott Murray]

Hmmm I am not sure why you do not like it, but if its that bad feel free to pass it on to me I could handle another one

 

[Marcel]

Well, I feel sorry for you but don't give up. It's only been 2 days and you're not yet familiar with the buttons and menu. That's normal. If you had been used to the D300-700, you'd be right at home. I used both 700 and 600 and although the controls are not at the same place on the camera, it only takes a bit to get used to.

Now, when you say it's noisy.... What do you mean exactly? Does it make noise or do you find the High iso files to have digital noise?

 

[Millie]

While I see your point about getting use to it that does not mean it is ever going to be fast to operate/check settings ..and its the shutter noise thats bad even in Q..a nice D6100 with 36 mp sensor would win all my votes

 

[Marcel]

Although I've never used a D800, I have to agree that the shutter is very quiet on the D600 in Q mode.

 

[Scott Murray]

Hmmm I will have to do a sound test and see what the difference is, I am thinking I may just be used to the sound now.

 

[BackdoorArts]

Welcome to the world of the "Pro Camera". These are not designed to be convenient, they are designed to be tools for experienced photographers. Coming from a D7000 and D600 the D800 was rather awkward for me to use at first. But as you explore it you can see why experienced photographers want things where they are, and want the ability to really customize entire banks of menu settings.

I heartily recommend Darrel Young's "Mastering the Nikon Dxxxx" books. I bought his D7000 book and it demystified a lot of that camera for me. When I saw the complexity of the D800 I decided it was worth it to get the D800 version as well. It's essentially an understandable walk through the manual with practical recommendations for how to set each of the various options for specific purposes, allowing you to choose what works best for your style of photography. Before you frustrate yourself into hating the camera do yourself a favor and invest in the guide. If you're still frustrated I'll line up after Scott for another.

 

[BackdoorArts]

Although I've never used a D800, I have to agree that the shutter is very quiet on the D600 in Q mode.

Like Marcel, I use Q mode a lot on my D600 because it makes for a very physically quiet camera as well. The thing about the D800 is that the added body mass compensates for the snap of the mirror and shutter and I find I don't need Q mode on it. That said, I was surprised how differently the two cameras are in that mode. It's still physically quieter, which may be the point, but definitely not audibly quieter. I'd be curious as to how the D3 and D4 are in that mode. It may have something to do with the metal body or more durable shutter mechanism.

 

[Millie]

I put the silicone skin on it but I dont think its much quieter..you can use a D7100 in Q when you are not supposed to be taking pictures but you would never get away with a D800 in Q mode.

I prefer the plastic bodies ..on a metal one the paint comes off at the corners..looks tacky hence the skin.

 

[Geoffc]

Well I always wanted one so I got one for christmas...I want the 36mp for my very wide shots ..the 10-20mm sigma on DX did not quite cut it ..

But ..what terrible controls Pro controls are slow controls.. and its so bl++dy noisy . Now if you got a D6100/7100 and you look at it ON or OFF you know if its in U1 A or whatever ..not this stupid thing ..you got to turn it on and fiddle in menus ABCD ?? ..No No bad move Nikon I notice Canon got a Knob on there FX

I got a 12-24mm Sigma but it was faulty ..all photo looked out of focus ..but my sigma 17-35 works fine but is not quite wide enough Samyang 14mm anybody ???

I remember going out and buying a two seat sports coupe a few years ago. I gave the manufacturer hell when I couldn't get my six kids and two wives in comfortably, along with a wardrobe and a weeks shopping. And it was noisy with the tuned engine and big bore exhaust. The idiots suggested I should have done some research to make sure I was buying the right product for my requirements!! I'm sorry for the sarcasm but your post sounds like it's either spam or somebody has just spent a big chunk of cash on something without understanding why they were doing it.

Funnily enough I only came to the D800 section of the forum today because I was just about to post about how I really enjoyed using mine yesterday. With regards to the controls, any bad move on Nikon's part must have been made a long time ago as any pro body DSLR I've used has had this layout and that goes back a good few years. Somebody who understands what they are doing would not want presets as a crutch (Nice option for quick shots perhaps) and would like the fact that they can quickly access the individual controls without diving into the menu system.

You have a camera that is potentially excellent, so I suggest you either learn and enjoy it or have a look at one of the other models if their layout is more to your liking. I will say one other thing, the D800 being full frame with a shallower depth of field than DX and all those pixels to highlight any operator deficiencies requires a reasonable technique or you will get sub par results. Coming from a 12mp D300s, it certainly gave me a few harsh lessons when I got mine.

 

[BackdoorArts]

I have to say, you're a tough person to please, Millie - and I thought you said you dumped all your Sigma lenses because Nikon was hacking the firmware to keep you from using them properly?!

Maybe it's time for you to start shopping in a store where you can try these things out before you bring them home and complain about them? I see that you're a pro shooter, which means you get paid to be fussy, but I would think that you'd spend some time sussing this stuff out before it comes home with you.

 

[gqtuazon]

While I see your point about getting use to it that does not mean it is ever going to be fast to operate/check settings ..and its the shutter noise thats bad even in Q..a nice D6100 with 36 mp sensor would win all my votes

It makes me wonder why someone like you would buy a camera and don't like the lay-out of the controls and the sound of the shutter? Didn't you at least try it at the store before spending so much money for the D800? It's like buying a Ferrari (except for the speed) and not liking how the muffler sounds.

 

[BackdoorArts]

Can we please stop the Ferrari comparisons to the D800!! LOL

 

[Millie]

Well I dont think you read the orignal post ..comparing the D610 style controls with the D800....before I bought it I had a conversation with hogan about pro is slow but he shoots landscapes not weddings and we got no time to pisssss about ...Pre set controlls is what its all about ..inside outside lowlight bokeh are the four main fast requirement and Quiet when the minister says no photographs and I take them anyway ...A D800 will NEVER match the speed of a D7100 for setting changes with a dial
Yes I did get rid of all my DX sigmas apart from the FX 17-35 which only cost $60 and is great but not wide enough for my signature shots of groups and in church..

I did try one out in a store ... test cards and all that but in that environment the sound did not catch my attention.

The problem is what I do is not what you do and the problems I have are not problems you understand....The D800 is usable but not as easy to use as a D610/7100 or a D5 Canon and thats my point...BUT IT SHOULD BE

 

[gqtuazon]

The problem is what I do is not what you do and the problems I have are not problems you understand....The D800 is usable but not as easy to use as a D610/7100 or a D5 Canon and thats my point...BUT IT SHOULD BE

So I guess this post is more about you venting out and you are not use to its control features. Got it!

 

[Marcel]

Well I dont think you read the orignal post ..comparing the D610 style controls with the D800....before I bought it I had a conversation with hogan about pro is slow but he shoots landscapes not weddings and we got no time to pisssss about ...Pre set controlls is what its all about ..inside outside lowlight bokeh are the four main fast requirement and Quiet when the minister says no photographs and I take them anyway ...A D800 will NEVER match the speed of a D7100 for setting changes with a dial
Yes I did get rid of all my DX sigmas apart from the FX 17-35 which only cost $60 and is great but not wide enough for my signature shots of groups and in church..

I did try one out in a store ... test cards and all that but in that environment the sound did not catch my attention.

The problem is what I do is not what you do and the problems I have are not problems you understand....The D800 is usable but not as easy to use as a D610/7100 or a D5 Canon and thats my point...BUT IT SHOULD BE

Mille,

I seriously thing you should go back to the store where you bought it and exchange it for another 610. If you don't like it now, why would you like it later?
I don't think you should be blaming Nikon for producing a camera that is well liked and used by a lot of photographers. But, this is why they do produce many different models, to please different people. You could cry all night, it's not going to make you like the D800. Just go back and exchange it.

 

[Millie]

No point in changing it the D 610 is only 24 mp ..I got three of them .. but with ref to the D800 ..No No ..I am use to its controls and as such understand that they will always be slow to operate in comparison to a D610 style of controlls which are click click job done while the d800 is push push push up down left right push push job done

the point is they should not be slow and antique..Nikon should dump this old fashioned craaap like Canon have . well I know Canon has a dial with three user setting positons .... Well Rockwell does not like his D800 and I know why ..the rest of you have your heads in the sand on this aspect of the D800..good sensor bad ergonomics

 

[wornish]

No point in changing it the D 610 is only 24 mp ..I got three of them .. but with ref to the D800 ..No No ..I am use to its controls and as such understand that they will always be slow to operate in comparison to a D610 style of controlls which are click click job done while the d800 is push push push up down left right push push job done

the point is they should not be slow and antique..Nikon should dump this old fashioned craaap like Canon have . well I know Canon has a dial with three user setting positons .... Well Rockwell does not like his D800 and I know why ..the rest of you have your heads in the sand on this aspect of the D800..good sensor bad ergonomics

Why don't you simply trade it for a Canon then ?
Cant believe anyone would spend this kind of money without trying it first.
By the way don't buy a Sony A7 for 36mp the shutter sound is even louder.

 

[BackdoorArts]

What is it about Hogan devotees that make then piss 'n moan so much? I seem to remember a former member and Hogan disciple who did that incessantly. I'm happy with my head in sand. It's better than having it stuck up something else.

 

[Marcel]

Well, to each his own I guess. I've never used the U-1 U-2 settings on my 7000 or 600. I never thought they'd be essential for a pro. I guess you never had to shoot weddings with a Hasselblad with external manual flash. Couldn't even change the iso (used to be ASA by the way). Talk about shutter noise then followed by the blackout until you rewound the shutter... Ah memories.