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steptoe

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I had a read on this issue for personal information as I don't own a D600 but I am looking to get a new/nearly new D7000 to upgrade from my D3100, I'm wanting to do more and find some things are lacking now but its still a very good starter DSLR and will be used as a backup or DSLR I can use with lugging my main kit around. The D7000 are known for oiling or ERR on the shutters, which is why I was looking at new old stock so I still qualify for the 2 year guarantee if i do get any issues later

Anyway, I found this link from a link that shows Nikon is well aware of the issues face by D600 users

https://nikoneurope-en.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/55647

This is the source link :

LensRentals.com - D600 Sensor Dust Issues

Interesting company that repairs as well as rents all camera related equipment and have about 20 D600 so should be better than most for seein common faults with specific models


Here in UK, if you are fed up with being fobbed off or have something repaired that is still obviously faulty with such a high value item you can insist on it being repaired again or argue its 'unfit for purpose' and have it replaced with a new like for like if still available, or the next model up or a full refund (with compensation if you can argue the point)

Its in UK consumer law which is quite powerful and it applies regardless how cheap or how expensive the item is, having it 'repaired' twice in such a short time would prompt me to looking at that if it started happening again. Especially if its something you use or rely on a lot


Reading about the D7000 'ERR' and shutter failure issues is in the back of my mind, but 'seems' to effect early models, or never at all so is a random issue with no definite possibility of tracking the range of serial number that have the faulty shutters
 
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pedroj

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m-faccone said:
This all comes on the back of a brick and mortar sales rep saying nikon is releasing a newer body, along with nikon rumors saying which body. Nikon corporate denies it so far. We shall see. You know my opinion... It should be offered as a recall/replacement to d600 owners with the problems this upgrade has fixed. Nikon, and the corporate greed will probably not offer it.. Because they know people will buy it.
But, I still haven't heard of any official release... Nikon rumors gets it right 50% of the time.
To respond... You are correct.. Auto manufactures recall/fix issues. I don't think d600 owners want their money back... Just acknowledge the problem, offer a recall to fix the problem. That would kind of justify the release of a d610 body since all the specs seem to state it's the same except for the shutter mechanism.
This could truly be a decent upgrade, nobody knows yet. All I'm saying is that with the specs that are out there... It's a repaired d600 with the d610 stamp on it

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A lot of people knew of the problems with the D600 and still went ahead and bought it....
 
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pedroj said:
A lot of people knew of the problems with the D600 and still went ahead and bought it....
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And I am one of those people; however, I purchased it because I was told (and read online) that Nikon resolved the issue. Obviously that isn't the case. :(
 
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Fred Kingston_RIP

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steptoe said:
I had a read on this issue for personal information as I don't own a D600 but I am looking to get a new/nearly new D7000 to upgrade from my D3100, I'm wanting to do more and find some things are lacking now but its still a very good starter DSLR and will be used as a backup or DSLR I can use with lugging my main kit around. The D7000 are known for oiling or ERR on the shutters, which is why I was looking at new old stock so I still qualify for the 2 year guarantee if i do get any issues later

Anyway, I found this link from a link that shows Nikon is well aware of the issues face by D600 users

https://nikoneurope-en.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/55647

This is the source link :

LensRentals.com - D600 Sensor Dust Issues

Interesting company that repairs as well as rents all camera related equipment and have about 20 D600 so should be better than most for seein common faults with specific models


Here in UK, if you are fed up with being fobbed off or have something repaired that is still obviously faulty with such a high value item you can insist on it being repaired again or argue its 'unfit for purpose' and have it replaced with a new like for like if still available, or the next model up or a full refund (with compensation if you can argue the point)

Its in UK consumer law which is quite powerful and it applies regardless how cheap or how expensive the item is, having it 'repaired' twice in such a short time would prompt me to looking at that if it started happening again. Especially if its something you use or rely on a lot


Reading about the D7000 'ERR' and shutter failure issues is in the back of my mind, but 'seems' to effect early models, or never at all so is a random issue with no definite possibility of tracking the range of serial number that have the faulty shutters
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That's an interesting concept... Having spent a prior life in risk management and insurance, I would guess those laws are reflected in the price difference between what a Nikon costs in the UK, vs the US... :)
 
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NVSteve

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From what I have seen & heard of late, it seems the D600 still has issues. There are still those who firmly believe there are no issues whatsoever, those who had issues that were fixed by Nikon, those who still have issues after being "fixed" by Nikon, and those with issues (like me) who don't want to risk sending it in for a questionable "fix." The most frustrating part is that Nikon will not issue a statement about this, aside from a few I've seen from outside Nikon HQ.

As to a new D610 on the horizon, it makes sense to me. From what I remember reading, the D600 is part of their entry level line, which tends to get updated about yearly. Proof is in the pudding though. We'll see how long it takes for a D620 to be released after the release of the D610, assuming the D610 is oil free. I'll certainly get a big laugh if the D610 ends up with the same issues as the D600. If that does happen, maybe that will be enough for Nikon to finally admit to something. I know, wishful thinking on my part.
 
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Rick M

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The statement on Nikon's website is not an affirmation that they have a defined problem and solution. It is very loosely written to avoid any direct responsibility or omission that they put out a bad product and plan to make good on it. They are aware that YOU might have an issue :)
 
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CakvalaSC

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I read up more on this issue, seems most cases once the D600 gets broken in (around the 3k to 5k shot mark) the Oil / Dust issue goes away.
 
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NVSteve

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CakvalaSC said:
I read up more on this issue, seems most cases once the D600 gets broken in (around the 3k to 5k shot mark) the Oil / Dust issue goes away.
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Where did you read this? I've heard this theory since day 1 of the first splatter report, and I still hear people throwing this around as fact now, but have seen far, far fewer posts about people experiencing this as opposed to the splatter simply continuing to splat. Has anyone on this forum experienced the oil going away after a few thousand shots? I've given up trying to get any truthful info out of the D600 thread at DPR, as there are far too many bigshots preaching from their boxes claiming that "I do not have spots on my sensor, therefore the issue does not exist & those who claim it does are morons."

PS-my 2nd body still gets a bit of splatter, but I can live with it-especially compared to my first body.
 
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Rick M

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I'm at 6000 shots and it is better than it used to be (was never really bad). I've cleaned the sensor twice and believe it to be more dust than anything else. If it is oil, it's gotta run out sometime :)
 
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One interesting feature it has is a 3 fps in Quiet mode… :) But the link seems to be dead now, so I don't know if this is true or not...
 
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Mark F

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gqtuazon said:
Anyone pulling the trigger for the D610?

Nikon | News | Digital SLR camera D610

Nikon D610 Review: Hands-On Preview
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reading these specs.. except for the new shutter... 6fps instead of 5.5. and a 3fps quiet mode.... it doesn't look like a major upgrade at all.
Since my shutter was replaced.. and I don't use quiet mode... nothing here to get me excited.. and i still think Nikon should have offered a recall first before introducing this model.
I'll keep my d600 thank you very much
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funfortehfun

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While I am somewhat disappointed with their decision to keep the 39 AF-Point system (even the D7100 has a 51-point system!), I think the camera is looking good. Might buy it for my intro to FF.
 
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