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    Re: D4 is Mind Blowing!

    The D600 is placed to take on Canon's supremacy amongst the movie makers but you have to have the modern lenses. (All of them AF...no bueno for video!) The D800 is a frigging subterfuge. The D4 rolling in at 16 MP will make all of the old legacy manual focus glass sing like a songbird without missing a note and believe it or not some of that old F mount glass is incredible even by today's standards you just have to have the right body. The last FX Nikon made that does the old glass well is the 700 because it is 12 MP. Manual focus and this whole concept I am talking about is super important for video. Nikon is wresting the video crown from Canon! That is their strategy! They want to use their primary ghitas - the F mount. The D4 is WAY more than an action/PJ camera... Brilliant tactics and strategy Canon is as good as smoked what do they have that does this?

    Read here: http://nikonites.com/general-digital...#axzz2UHJ5hgpI


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  2. #12
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    Re: D4 is Mind Blowing!

    The d4 is a beast for video and it's better than my videographer assistants 5D mark III in lowlight!

    The D800 can do many things the D4 can't. Having both is amazing!
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  3. #13
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    Re: D4 is Mind Blowing!

    Ansel Adams would love the D800...George Lucas and HCB would use a D4!

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    Re: D4 is Mind Blowing!

    Quote Originally Posted by Eye-level View Post
    The D600 is placed to take on Canon's supremacy amongst the movie makers but you have to have the modern lenses. (All of them AF...no bueno for video!) The D800 is a frigging subterfuge. The D4 rolling in at 16 MP will make all of the old legacy manual focus glass sing like a songbird without missing a note and believe it or not some of that old F mount glass is incredible even by today's standards you just have to have the right body. The last FX Nikon made that does the old glass well is the 700 because it is 12 MP. Manual focus and this whole concept I am talking about is super important for video. Nikon is wresting the video crown from Canon! That is their strategy! They want to use their primary ghitas - the F mount. The D4 is WAY more than an action/PJ camera... Brilliant tactics and strategy Canon is as good as smoked what do they have that does this?

    Read here: http://nikonites.com/general-digital...#axzz2UHJ5hgpI
    That may have been the intention but oil and dust on the sensor and "no aperture control" while in live view pretty much eliminate it's chances of taking on canon.

    The D4 is much more competitive against canon and the d800 as well.
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    Re: D4 is Mind Blowing!

    They had to get it out in time for Christmas for shareholder benefit...one step forward two steps back. The D600...the great camera that could have been! Nikon has a bad habit of hobbling their cameras so they can sell to the masses...but that is just good profit making business strategy.

    D800 and D4 were introduced as a package deal...two best DSLRs there are IMO.

    The no aperture control thing is the big knock (of course my Ai lenses have aperture rings )...what do you think they will come up with to rectify that situation? Or will they?
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    Re: D4 is Mind Blowing!

    Not that I want to get into an argument about it as I rarely even use the feature, but I'm sure in the reviews I've read the D800 was better than the D4 when it comes to video.

    Also, whilst the D4 is ultimately better with high ISO shots, you have to down sample the D800 to 16mp to do the comparison.

    Having said all that, I would still enjoy owning a D4 if I could justify the expense as it's a real killer camera.
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    Re: D4 is Mind Blowing!

    You saw the Megapixel Myth thread didn't you? I figure you might like that one...

  8. #18
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    Re: D4 is Mind Blowing!

    Quote Originally Posted by Geoffc View Post
    Not that I want to get into an argument about it as I rarely even use the feature, but I'm sure in the reviews I've read the D800 was better than the D4 when it comes to video.

    Also, whilst the D4 is ultimately better with high ISO shots, you have to down sample the D800 to 16mp to do the comparison.

    Having said all that, I would still enjoy owning a D4 if I could justify the expense as it's a real killer camera.
    Down sampling the d800 doesn't make high ISO any different.

    The pixel density doesn't change when switching to crop mode.

    The D800 has sharper video, also the D800 doesn't need to go to extreme ISO's it seems to be enough @ 1600

    The D4 was said to have soft video, I don't think so. The crop 2.7x is tack sharp however.
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    Re: D4 is Mind Blowing!

    Quote Originally Posted by Corey @ Faymus Media View Post
    Down sampling the d800 doesn't make high ISO any different.

    Really Corey? Every article I've read (and yes I've tried it as well) about ISO noise talks about down sampling to a common megapixel point. This is done in post by outputting a 36mp image with the same dimensions as a 16mp image in this example. In doing so a lot of noise disappears. This is not the same as shooting in DX mode which will not improve the noise as you've just turned the D800 into a D7000 in reality.

    For the avoidance of doubt, I'm not saying this would make the D800 as noise free as the D4, but it is pretty good.
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    Re: D4 is Mind Blowing!

    Quote Originally Posted by Geoffc View Post
    Really Corey? Every article I've read (and yes I've tried it as well) about ISO noise talks about down sampling to a common megapixel point. This is done in post by outputting a 36mp image with the same dimensions as a 16mp image in this example. In doing so a lot of noise disappears. This is not the same as shooting in DX mode which will not improve the noise as you've just turned the D800 into a D7000 in reality.

    For the avoidance of doubt, I'm not saying this would make the D800 as noise free as the D4, but it is pretty good.
    It's negligible if anything. If I wanted a smaller image like the D7000 I would shoot with my D7100. I chose the D800 for the big image.

    Defeats the purpose lets stay on track.

    We don't buy a mustang and rip the v8 out and put a v6 in it and make it silent so it doesn't disturb granny. What sense does this really make?

    None!
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