I do the same thing, not counting one unless I get some pic of it , I want to be able to check myself. I tend to be a stickler about that because frankly, my imagination can turn a blur into an exotic rarity effortlessly. And looking back , If I really wasnt sure of my ID's , the list would lose its meaning to me. But everyone has their own standard , which Is theirs to require of themself.i do keep a list, started it last year injunction with my 2016 52 weekly thread, last look it was at 164, i could maybe add 3 or 4 to it, now i am updating that thread to show/record all the birds i have taken photographs off. I saw some Sanderlings running up and down the surf but i am not marking this off my list as i didnt get a photo, if that makes sense.
The Reddish Egret which turned out to be a Goliath Heron its been marked of my list even though i never new it existed before.
A "life" bird for me is one that is considered "rare" in my area, or in the areas where I saw it. Time has nothing to do with it. I love on the east cost so any hummingbird I saw while vacationing in California are lifers for me. Likewise anything that wanders into my area unexpectedly is the same. My first time on a "birding" trip I got two of what local folks called "lifers" for the area, including a White-winged Dove. Last year I got a Crested Caracarra that got blown into the NJ winter. These are never here and there were multiple birders chasing it around the county for a week. Now, were I to see it in FL visiting my family it would still make the list but not quite a "lifer". I've met folks who were chasing Snowy Owls so as to log them in as many states as possible.
The simplest definition? The first time you see any bird it's a "lifer", because it adds to your life list. The difference is how excited you get or how long you've waited to see it. We actually keep two lists, a complete list of all birds we've seen anywhere, and those we've seen at home, from within the boundaries of our own hell's half-acre. After 24 years we're at somewhere north of 70 birds, which is pretty darn good. The photography thing doesn't play with the list as we started long before I grabbed a camera, but I'm trying to catch up.
Hey now !PLEASE DON"T CALL YOURSELF A BIRDER
Different class we are PHOTOGRAPHERS I hate birder's here
Hey now !
Why are you saying that ? You do birds , like birds etc , they present challenges all their own, just as portraiture or landscape or weddings do.They are aresholes here
PLEASE DON"T CALL YOURSELF A BIRDER
Different class we are PHOTOGRAPHERS I hate birder's here
I've had the police show up about 7 times including helicopter when I used a blind next too an area that has hunting but this side is a sanctuary open to the public with trails cause I'm harassing the birds been told I'm too close and bothering the birds ETC. Yet they will have a handfull of sunflower seeds to feed the chickadees and what ever else comes aroundWhy are you saying that ? You do birds , like birds etc , they present challenges all their own, just as portraiture or landscape or weddings do.
Even being cheeky, you're being more than a bit of an asshole. There are "photographers" who take pictures because they're pedophiles, so to say all "birders" are of the variety you've experienced justifies me getting held on the side of the road and questioned by for 30 minutes because I'm a middle aged man with a camera who happened to be photographing a foggy morning when a school bus drove by. I've met more than my fair share of asshole photographers, so if you'd like we can swap locations.
Oh, I understand the cause now for some level of annoyance , however keep in mind that not everyone is so extremist.I've had the police show up about 7 times including helicopter when I used a blind next too an area that has hunting but this side is a sanctuary open to the public with trails cause I'm harassing the birds been told I'm too close and bothering the birds ETC. Yet they will have a handfull of sunflower seeds to feed the chickadees and what ever else comes around
Yep that's what they call me and my friends when they walk away cause no charges were laid
I have run in to a couple of them with superiority complexes.
i think everyone runs into them at one stage or another, i was told one day that my benro tripod and wimberley was abit of an overkill for my camera and lens.