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  1. #21
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    Re: 300mm f4 IF-ED with 1.4 tc

    Hi Peter,

    Were your photos with the new 300mm shot with 1.4 tc or not?


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  2. #22
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    Re: 300mm f4 IF-ED with 1.4 tc

    Quote Originally Posted by blackstar View Post
    Hi Peter,

    Were your photos with the new 300mm shot with 1.4 tc or not?
    Just the 300. Haven’t purchased a 1.4tc yet

  3. #23
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    Re: 300mm f4 IF-ED with 1.4 tc

    300mm f4 IF-ED with 1.4 tc
    Quote Originally Posted by Peter7100 View Post
    My 300 has arrived and I was out putting it through its paces this morning. Really like the lens but I have a lot of learning on bird photography to get anywhere near the standard you guys and girls produce with your stunning images. Anyway here is a few from first attempts.

    300mm f4 IF-ED with 1.4 tc-peter.jpg

    300mm f4 IF-ED with 1.4 tc-peter3.jpg

    300mm f4 IF-ED with 1.4 tc-peter2.jpg
    I downloaded your photos then added them into your quote in hopes the EXIF data will display.

    With the first one, ISO 4000 is kind of high for that body and am assuming it was shot in somewhat low light. And for all bird photos, you really should aim to stop down further than f/4. With a telephoto lens, your depth of field will be shallower especially when you add a TC.

    The shutter speed of 1/500" is barely okay if you are hand holding the lens. The DX crop factor gives that 300mm lens a 450mm field of view (1.5 crop factor). It's generally a little better to allow yourself a little faster shutter speed especially since that lens doesn't have VR.

    You're off to a good start though! Everyone has to start somewhere. Are you using BBF with AF-C? That is very helpful if and when the birds decide to take off (keeps AF tracking a moving subject). And when they do take off, you will want to increase your shutter speed to at least 1/1600" for birds in flight. Otherwise you will be dealing with motion blur. Once you get accustomed to shooting birds, you might want to cap your ISO so it doesn't go above a certain number. Mine is capped at either 4000 or 5000. When I reach that limit, my pics are underexposed. So no matter what, I deal with noise under those circumstances.

    Have fun!
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  4. #24
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    Re: 300mm f4 IF-ED with 1.4 tc

    Quote Originally Posted by blackstar View Post
    Hi Peter,

    Were your photos with the new 300mm shot with 1.4 tc or not?
    I should have added it is a secondhand 300 from eBay and appears to be in excellent condition. Only 430 UK pounds which seems a bargain.

  5. #25
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    Re: 300mm f4 IF-ED with 1.4 tc

    Quote Originally Posted by hark View Post
    I downloaded your photos then added them into your quote in hopes the EXIF data will display.

    With the first one, ISO 4000 is kind of high for that body and am assuming it was shot in somewhat low light. And for all bird photos, you really should aim to stop down further than f/4. With a telephoto lens, your depth of field will be shallower especially when you add a TC.

    The shutter speed of 1/500" is barely okay if you are hand holding the lens. The DX crop factor gives that 300mm lens a 450mm field of view (1.5 crop factor). It's generally a little better to allow yourself a little faster shutter speed especially since that lens doesn't have VR.

    You're off to a good start though! Everyone has to start somewhere. Are you using BBF with AF-C? That is very helpful if and when the birds decide to take off (keeps AF tracking a moving subject). And when they do take off, you will want to increase your shutter speed to at least 1/1600" for birds in flight. Otherwise you will be dealing with motion blur. Once you get accustomed to shooting birds, you might want to cap your ISO so it doesn't go above a certain number. Mine is capped at either 4000 or 5000. When I reach that limit, my pics are underexposed. So no matter what, I deal with noise under those circumstances.

    Have fun!
    I have never taken to BBF. I tried it years ago with my Canon bodies and never took to it. The light today was fairly poor hence the high ISO. I will certainly try and stop the aperture down a bit, however if I increase the shutter speed as well, I am going to be back to high ISO levels again. Unfortunately Scotland is not often blessed with wonderful bright days ☹️.
    Thanks for the tips.
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  6. #26
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    Re: 300mm f4 IF-ED with 1.4 tc

    Oh, you are not using BBF? Then everything manual? You set and change speed, iso, aperture for every shot, and manually focus on? How far (approximately) were you away from the birds? Are your photos post-cropped? Pardon me for my inexperience.

  7. #27
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    Re: 300mm f4 IF-ED with 1.4 tc

    [QUOTE=blackstar;750905]Oh, you are not using BBF? Then everything manual? You set and change speed, iso, aperture for every shot, and manually focus on? How far (approximately) were you away from the birds? Are your photos post-cropped? Pardon me for my inexperience.

    I did not use Back Button Focus. I was in aperture priority the whole time. ISO was set to auto iso with 6400 as a maximum. Shutter speed was set to a minimum of 1/500 and I mostly shot at F4. So basically the camera was selecting the iso number as nearly every shot was coming out at F4 and 1/500 of a second. It was really only the iso that was changing based on the light.I was approximately 10 to 12 feet away.
    These ones were not cropped. To be honest this is my first real venture into bird photography so I am very much on a learning curve with it. Next time I will take the advice from Cindy (Hark) and stop down the F number maybe to 7.1 and I might try it with a tripod.

  8. #28
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    Re: 300mm f4 IF-ED with 1.4 tc

    Ok, "A" mode and manual focus. Wonder how much time spent focusing b4 taking a shot? assuming you need to change focusing for every shot i.e., different birds, scenes. Thanks

  9. #29
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    Re: 300mm f4 IF-ED with 1.4 tc

    Quote Originally Posted by blackstar View Post
    Ok, "A" mode and manual focus. Wonder how much time spent focusing b4 taking a shot? assuming you need to change focusing for every shot i.e., different birds, scenes. Thanks
    No sorry I should have stated, it was auto focus set at AF-C.
    I use the standard front button focus/shutter button.
    Last edited by Peter7100; 01-12-2021 at 11:50 PM.

  10. #30
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    Re: 300mm f4 IF-ED with 1.4 tc

    Ah-ha! got it. (thought you must use some kind of AF)
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